No you did not. I asked you name me a PG who averaged 17/8, you listed none. You also mentioned 17/8 is considered 3rd option, none of thise players on that list are even remotely close to 3rd option, most of them are either 1st or 2nd options. Wanna try again?
Funny thing is Conley's numbers haven't improved much from that year, so Lin's current stats are very close to Conley's.
Different system and different pace. Rockets averaged close to 100 possessions a game while Grizzlies is one of the slowest team in the league. Adjusted based on pace they are not that close.
I don't care if you are older than that dude in the cave in the Last Crusade. It's not about how old you are, it's about how real you keep it I'm a 99er, and I know my fellow 99ers keep it real
Actually no Conley's numbers have improved significantly. 2 more ppg on much higher efficiency is nothing to scoff at(improvement of 2.6TS%)
You are 100% wrong, but okay, since you obviously have a problem reading the stats I put up, Jrue Holiday averaged 17.7 points and 8.0 assists this past season. (it's on there if you would have read the post) Chris Paul averaged 16.9 points and 9.7 assists this past season, although you may not want to count it since his points is .1 off. smh Neither of these players that I mention are on championship contending teams either. They are missing another superstar or two to make their respective teams contenders. If we get Howard, I fully expect him to average 20 and 10 and Harden will still be around 25 pts/gm again next year. So if Lin averaged 17 and 8 next year, he would still at best be the third option.
I had an account back then, just lost the username and password. But I guess since you didn't lose yours, it makes you better than me.
I just want to see some improvement. If that happens, I'll be happy with it. He turns the ball over way too much for his amount of production. He needs to improve on his 3 point shooting, he's one of the worst among starting PGs and that's unfortunate because all we do is shoot threes. And the last thing that bothered me was his lack of poise when he got pressured in a double team. He reacts poorly in those situations and that can't happen in the playoffs. Next year if he is higher than 36% in 3p% and 14/6 on less than 2.5 turnovers. I'll be happy.
you had a 99er account and you lost it? I doubt this. 99ers don't lose their accounts. it's in their hearts.
My point is that raw numbers for the most part are almost completely meaningless. There are plenty of Pgs in the past who had 17/8 but were nothing special because they dominated the ball way too much relative to how good they were, had a mediocre assist/TO ratio and scored inefficiently. 15/6 with pretty good efficiency, a solid assist/TO ratio and good defense would be more than good enough that would make Lin basically a Mike Conley esque PG and Mike Conley is a very good PG. People get too enamored with raw ppg and assists. Jennings has 17.5/7.5 for example and he is awful. Conley is 2x better at least.
Only one in the list that make 17/8 average is Jrue Holiday. And in my opinion he is probably No.5/No.6 point guard this year behind Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul, Deron William, Tony Parker. Nothing to sneeze at.
While you make some very good points that I won't make arguments against, to say that 17/8 is meaningless I think is a bit of an over statement. That is not very easy to do in today's NBA over the course of a full season, especially on a playoff team. I also never said the Lin was "special" or a "superstar" or even needs to be. That's why I said he could average that and be the third option on our team, for example if we get Howard, and that could be a contending team.
So that >+2% from 3s, >+0.6 ppg, and >-0.4 TO improvement will turn you into a believer? lol. I do agree with you that he needs to do a much better job handling a double team and improve his decision making.
I totally agree with you. Why some socalled Rockets fans always find negative things about Lin? This is his first year and he did a good job. Harden took most of his PG work and has a lot of flaws too. So I fully support lin and the whole team to try next year to see what's happening. give lin some credits to help Rockets into the playoffs.
Thanks man for this post. There has been so many who wants lin replaced due to kneejerk responses. but yeah, I believe in Lin! Cant wait for him to start a season healthy!
