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THE MAN! Expectations

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket River, Jun 16, 2003.

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  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    BS

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  2. Turcan5

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    Next year I'm hoping Yao will average around 18 pts, 10 rbs and 2 blocks a game. I hope he spends part of the summer improving his strength and conditioning because he did look tired at the end of the year.
     
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    Man, you guys are expecting way too much, calm down, second year man. I'd say 17 pts 10 rbs 1.7 asst 2.4 blks 5 fouls
     
  4. StevieFlight3

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    20 pts 15 reb 3 asst blk 3
    the guys 7 6 and after a year in the nba with out going to traing camp i think he will do alot better with ewing teaching him hot get his rebounds and to score and what not i realy do belive hes going to surprise every body like he did last year
     
  5. C-Kompii

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    Yao can get the stats if he has the stamina to play more. Last year he averaged ONLY 29 minutes a game scoring 13.5 points and 8.2 rebounds in his first year of life in America, rookie season, non-stop play for 2 years and on less than 10 shots per game. Judging from his output, theoratically if he had played 40 minutes, he would have averaged 23.5 points and 11.3 rebounds.

    I think Yao would average around 35 minutes this season, and on 18pts, 10rbn. Yao is a fast learner, he will improve as the season go on. Expect an explotion in this 3rd year (stats wise)

    -G'day-
     
  6. ragingFire

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    Yao's techniques are very good but there are a few things he needs to work on if he wants to improve on his stats.

    1) Go after the rebound
    Works on his lateral movement. Learns the flight and the bounce of the ball. Holds position with both arms up high, it saves him a second raising his arms to grab a rebound. Many times the ball bounces over his head while he has his arms by his sides.

    2) After getting the rebound.
    He needs to learn to do what Duncan does when he grabs a rebound: keeps it high above the shoulder. On the offensive end, Duncan does not even bring it down below his head, he simply goes back up and puts it in.

    3) Shooting
    After Yao catches the ball in the post, he needs to hold the ball high while he is still looking at his options. When he does turn and shoot, he also needs to keep it high and turns with his elbow leading. It is also helpful if he starts his shot with the ball from higher up rather than from the knee or the waist. It speeds up his release.
     
  7. Rocket River

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    So with 25~35 'touches' a game
    we can only expect him to average
    18ish pts
    3 ish asst
    11 ish rebounds

    So out of his 25 to 35 'touches;
    the result is about 24 pts.
    AND THIS makes us a better more winning team?

    Maybe I'm misunderstand 'TOUCHES'

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  8. rvpals

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    I don't think anyone can guess that right number for Yao next year. The important thing is that JVG is going to bring a good system, and that means every players' talents are going to be use fully.

    The measure of Yao the man should be if the team becoming a much improved team and they make the playoff (not the 8th seed, somewhere around 5 or 6th seed). Most importantly the Rockets play team ball.

    My turn for the number guessing game:
    Yao:
    20pts, 12rebs, 4 blocks, 6 assists, 59%FG,60% 3PT, 88% FT, 1.2 TO, 1 Steal.
     
  9. Apollo Creed

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    I don't care if Yao averages 4 points or 40, as long as we're winning.
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    I am hoping to see Yao make his teammates better. By getting them easy shots, encouraging more ball movement, and letting them take more gambles on the defensive end.

    If he makes the game easier for his teammates, I will be fine with his stats not being at "superstar" level.
     
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    His number will be 16 ppg, 9 rpg, and 2bl/g, just like what he did last December.
     
  12. Like A Breath

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    Well, he played less than 30 per game last year, so it should be around 35-38 now.

    So here's how his stats will improve:
    13 points will be 17
    8 rebounds will be 11
    2 blocks will be 3
    1.5 assists will be 2.5

    Watch out for 3rd year Yao...
     
  13. Yetti

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    Trying to get his bearing on a Guard Ortiented Team, while adjusting to all the great pressures he was feeling. He didn't get any specialised Big man Coaching.Still needs a lot of work on positioning both for Offence and Defence. Has not trained in China or Houston to have a leaders mentality. His mind set was to fit in the best he could. You never know though what this season might bring, JVG might begin his serious transformation and we might see some aggression and leadership, especially if he is feeling stronger after all the weight training. I think he will again surprise!
     
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    rocket river, you are acting like a jackass.

    24 points out of 25 touches a game is a fantastic ratio. it's not like every time someone touches the ball it's a shot attempt or a pass that leads directly to another shot attempt.

    i guess you are just conditioned to Rudy's r****ded offense where number of touches roughly equaled number of possessions.
     
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    Uhhhh................the guards are selfish and remain this team's #1 problem. Debate it all you want, but that seems to be the generally excepted point of view outside the Rockets inner circle where bias is not a factor.
     
  16. Deuce Rings

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    As for Yao, it is really way too early to tell exactly what this guy is going to be. We all know he has the abnormal finesse post moves for a guy of his height and that has lead to many people labeling him the next great center in the league. What we don't know is what kind of heart and drive this guy has. Talent alone will get him 18 points and 9 to 10 boards a game, but if he is going to live up to some unbelievably and maybe even unfairly high expectations, he is going to have to show he has the same killer instinct and will to win that players like Jordan, Malone, Kobe, and McGrady have (among others, but those were the first four that came to mind). The competitive desires of the four players I just mentioned make them super stars as opposed to just stars. These kind of players take teams on their backs in the crucial moments in the playoffs. Yao after one season seems very timid, very bashful, and not always aggressive. He has youth and inexperience playing at the NBA level as his excuse for his first two, maybe three years in the league. Any Rockets fan hopes that ends up being truth. However, if he hasn't changed after three seasons, then he will probably never be able to meet the high expectations that have been set for him.
     
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    Would you beleive that Yao Ming actually took less than 10 shots a game last season. He only averaged 9.8 shots a game.
     
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    and f*ck u too

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  19. Rocket River

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    two types of bias
    The Pro-Bias and the Anti-bias

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    I think that Yao will put up 18 ppg, 9 rpg and 3 asp and about 2.7 bpg on 57% shooting and shoot about 77% from the line. Those are dominant enough numbers to help lead the Rockets to the a #5 or #6 seed and potentially into the 2nd round. What kind of nightmare would it be if you're Dallas and you see a 7-6 center in the freaking FIRST ROUND of the playoffs. Heh.
     

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