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The Luis Scola Dilemma

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets934life, Mar 15, 2010.

  1. Phillyrocket

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    I was thinking about this as well.... next year if Yao is 100% and you add a middle of the first round pick, how far can you go? We have GREAT depth, great scorers in AB, Martin, Yao, and Scola and great defenders in Lowry, Battier, and Ariza not to mention great potential in Hill, Bud, and the aforementioned first rounder.

    Is it enough? If you don't upgrade at PF where do you? Maybe Morey will shock us all and go hard after Lebron, honestly we have the assets for a sign and trade if Lebron made it clear he is leaving and wants to come here.

    In the end I think we end up with Amare. Like Martin he's been a guy Morey has coveted for awhile. And we all know Morey gets what he wants.
     
  2. BleedRocketsRed

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    Maybe Bosh is better but why would he be a good fit along Yao? Scola has proven to be because he is a great team player. He is a guy who is willing to hustle, do the dirty work. He has proven to be great alongside Yao (two seasons previous to this one).

    People are not saying Bosh is a better or worse player, they are saying he is not a good fit for this team. Bosh is a guy who has said he wants to be on a team which is built around him (btw, that team would probably never be a contender, this is a league where you need multiple superstars who care about winning more than themselves, unless you are LeBron). This is a team that is built around Yao (every move they make is made to help Yao).

    Bosh may be better than Scola. But is he better than Yao? There is only one correct answer to that one and we all know what it is.
     
  3. rockets934life

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    The issue isn't who is the better player but who is the better player for this team. Scola complements EVERYTHING the team does VERY well, i'd even say he could become this ERA's OT, and is already familiar with Yao. Bosh is fantastic but A LOT of unknowns and more adjustments come with acquiring him. Not saying Scola is better but the question is who is better for the Rockets?
     
  4. Tiger23

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    ok wat has he been his career here in Houston? not a go to scorer, a 4th at best when Yaos healthy and we had Tracey and Ron Landry etc..

    I watch all the games and hes NEVER played this well, I believe this is more of an aberration and also a contract year

    Im not convinced hes the answer to PF spot after a 3 week stretch

    Bosh is wat u call a proven commodity and he has length, theres a reason he got most of the minutes at the Beijing Olympics over Dwight Howard, give me that guy every time.. Id love if Scola stays and be his backup
     
  5. ASidd_1990

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    Keep Scola at all costs! I think he should retire as a Rocket! Morey should go after a good backup center like Camby. After that package Budinger, Jeffries and our NY picks for Ginobili in a sign in trade.

    Then, Your looking at a lineup of this:
    Brooks/Lowry
    Martin/Manu
    Ariza/Battier
    Scola/Hill
    Yao/Camby

    Besides, Bosh is probably gonna sign with either New York or Chicago.
     
  6. DUHK

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    +1 The way Luis is playing now. LOL I have forgotten about Bosh. It's all about trying to getting the player from the draft. Scola is just heart.
     
  7. Yetti

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    Best bet for the off season is that Morey gets us a decent back up Center and another 3 point shooter . :p
     
  8. bloop

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    nothing has changed

    nothing has changed

    nothing has changed

    nothing has changed

    nothing has changed

    Scola's production is a reflection that he's getting more minutes and more touches now that Landry is gone.

    Why do you think that Morey traded Landry? He knew Scola could pick up some slack and that he could draft/trade for a longer, more athletic 4 to back him up. And because of the 2 Landry would be attractive trade bait

    You're assuming

    - Houston has a good chance to get Bosh

    - Scola has performed far beyond what Morey expected

    why would Morey change anything? things are going as planned. Houston has a contender-level team by adding Yao but the plan still has to be to get the best 4 possible and a backup for Yao. nothing's changed

    Honestly at the time of the Landry trade Houston could realistically expect that they still had unseen upside in: Brooks, Martin, Scola, Bud, Lowry. The only people who had plateaued were Shane and Chuck. Those other guys should continue to get better and better for the next few years.
     
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  9. Tiger23

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    o yes i have followed Scola i love the guy, i do research on every foreign player we draft, in his case traded for

    but his utube videos were when he was younger cuz he used to dunk on ppl, but I watched the Fiba games and when Manu and Fabricio and Delfino didnt play on the National team one summer and he SINGLE handedly qualified Argentina for the Olympics and won MVP

    by himself he went up against the USA front courrt and was dominating, with no help

    Ive followed Scola career very much thank you very much but he hasnt played in the NBA the wway he plays internationally

    I actually expected him to play this way from the beggining of the season after comin off his oversees MVP performance

    Ill take the more accomplished NBA player over the great oversees player
     
  10. BleedRocketsRed

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    Why is it that nobody can explain why Bosh is a better fit at PF on the Rockets than Scola is?
     
  11. Carl Herrera

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    Seriously?

    Bosh is a better fit because he's a much better player.

    Dude.
     
  12. larsv8

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    Plenty of people can and have.
     
  13. carib

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    Having Bosh would be great. This teams has alot of depth in the positions 2-3. The team needs more PF and Centers. I just hope we don't gut the team and loose some depth in the offseason. The Rockets have had a lot bad luck of injuries over the years so having depth is important. If we don't get Bosh, we can still be an elite team with a healthy Yao and Martin. As we know in the past these guys have been injured often so we need depth in order to survive.
    Let Morey work his magic and see who we can really afford to get without damaging the chemistry of the team. Bosh would be great, but can we afford him, who knows. Ginobli would be great, but we have a lot depth at the 2-3.
    I say no matter what target a good PF/C regardless if he is Bosh or not so long as he is decent I will be happy.
     
  14. Seth

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    How can you expect him to play like this when after the trade it was Ariza, TMac or Yao getting all the shots and shaing his with Landry.
    I't not like his FG% has dropped since he's got more touches, he's playing the same, just being more involved. I think the reason he is performing this well is because Morey told him he would be a lot more involved this year, but that only started happening once Landry was traded. Better late than never. But Scola is playing exactly the same as he has always played. Footwork, hard work, and a lot of hustle plays.
    And defensively he has already twice the ammount of blocks he had last year, that's not great, but gives you the idea that the guy still works on the aspects of his game lacks.
     
  15. Easy

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    It is possible to keep Scola even if we get Bosh. A Yao/Bosh/Scola front court rotation would be ideal. Yao plays around 24 mpg, while Bosh and Scola play 36 mpg.

    We have a surplus in the wing rotation. Package Ariza or Battier with Jordan Hill plus fillers.

    Yao/Andersen
    Bosh/Scola/Hayes
    Battier-Ariza/Jeffries
    Martin/Budinger
    Brooks/Lowry/Llull

    This team can hang with the big boys. :cool:
     
  16. Naija Texan

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    Honestly, if we trade for any PF, it should be Josh Smith or possibly David Lee.


    But I personally, think we are straight in all positions once Yao returns to health. We might use our pick (sadly looking like a lottery) on a young C or PG that we can develop behind to compliment our current guys, but overall, I don't think we really need a drastic change given this current group of guys have most positions covered.

    If we do make a move, it will be for future draft picks, because we already are loaded with 3 to 4 possibilities at every position save PG.
     
  17. Tiger23

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    +3

    if he dont know Bosh is better than Scola then we kno his knowledge bout the NBA only expands to the Rockets
     
  18. Seth

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    i think morey will try to go after Ginobili, and trade either Ariza or Battier (most likely) to get another PF-C. If Hill shows he has game, he will handle the backup PF, because he is young and seems like a player with upside. If not, the PF-C we get will have to be a player that plays good at both positions. I think Camby is a good answer as he has played both PF and C. Wouldn't mind a sign and trade for him or sign him for the vet min, but i don't think we would be able to have both Ginobili and Camby (IN FREE AGENCY) as both will demand near the full MLE. Maybe Battier can get us a resigned Camby if the Clippers look for some experience and defense.
     
  19. BleedRocketsRed

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    He is a good player, I am just not convinced he can coexist with Yao.

    Scola has proven to be a great team player who fits in very well with Yao. He is a guy who hustles and does the dirty work. Is not always pretty but he gets the job done.
     
  20. Spacemoth

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    Just think of who you'd ideally pair at PF next year to play beside Yao. We've been saying this since we drafted Yao. You would want a power forward who was long, athletic, shot-blocking, a beast of a rebounder, rangy-yet-still-comfortable-down-low, and quick enough to guard the outside shooters while we rotate around the Great Wall down low.

    Wait a minute, you must be saying, "I C WUT U DID THAR, you just described Bosh!" and you would be correct. Bosh meets the fit for the ideal Rockets PF primarily as an offensive and defensive complement to Yao. That other stuff, you know, the post moves, the exceptional jump shooting range, the multiple-time all-star appearances? That's all just gravy.

    And btw, AMARE is the overrated one people mean to be talking about. Not Bosh.
     
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