You are posting on my side. What are you doing not proof-reading before you post on St. Patty's day? That was careless.
A further explanation is just that Bosh as a PF can score any way he pleases. He can face you up, jab step a few times, and then shoot in your face. Something we've seen Carl Landry do a few times... he's a deadly weapon on PnRs also like Stoudamire that he can roll to the basket or pop out and drain the mid range shot. Bosh can also Post up, but watching him you realize it's not his strongest ability but against most opponents you will not realize it. I don't beleive in trading Yao for Bosh. I just want to clear that up, that doesn't make us a contender. I only think we are a contender if we get Bosh without giving up 3 starters. I believe we are deep enough to lose 2 of Brooks/Scola/Ariza and contend next year. Brooks back up is Lowry and if we get Bosh that's not to say Morey will not find a more than solid backup PG. Maybe even take back on of the Raptors PGs in the trade. Scola well he'd be replaced by Bosh and we still have Hill,Jeffries....and Andersen I guess. Hayes also is naturally a PF. Ariza's backup is Shane and Chase, so I don't think we lose much by giving him away. So a Big 3 of Martin/Bosh/Yao could be achieved either way, but there are a lot of variables (Does Bosh want to come to Houston? What would other teams have to offer? Maybe Bosh already has his mind on another team? Can we resign Scola fast enough? Is our deal appealing to Toronto?) So much of this is a debate over WOULD anyone give up Two starters like Brooks/Scola for Bosh.
You guys see Bosh's game winner tonight against ATLANTA? Who are a pretty good team. And the guy guarding him is no slouch on defense (Horford). 6"10 guy that can create his own shot like that FADING AWAY.....that's why he'll get paid big bucks.
As a matter of fact, no, he always played with Fiba like centers which are not so mobile. The list goes long but what i can remember is Oberto, Splitter, Tomasevic. Not very mobile to say the truth.
I don't think anyone is questioning Bosh's offense. He is an extremely gifted scorer. But is building our team around Bosh the right move for the future? I for one do not agree with this assessment. In fact, I think it would be a terrible move if we trade away Yao to get Bosh.
Exactly. In RA's system there is no such thing as an absolute scorer. What does his ego say? Problems with touches? hmmm
I hate to see landry wear others' uniform I dun want scola to be the next... Could the rockets give him a contract right now? say 6M 3 years?
Oh no, I'm not saying to trade Yao for him at all. I'm saying he'd be a very nice piece to add. If people think we've got a three headed monster with Brooks/Martin/Scola right now, just imagine how that could turn into 4 heads with Bosh instead of Scola. Unlimited options on the offensive end, we could do ANYTHING.
Lets say Bosh wants to leave... Personally I would give up Scola (but not him and brooks) for him however I was thinking would it be better for the rockets to take on one of the their uglier contracts so we wouldn't have to give up Scola? Hedo or Calderon (who would we want to take) Bosh for Jefferies Ariza/Battier Hill NY Pick Why for Toronto? Bosh is most likely leaving. Letting him go to a Division rival doesn't help the Raptors any. Doing this sheds a bad contract and if NY doesn't get Lebron and Bosh that pick will be high!! Why for Houston? They don't have to give up Scola and they get Bosh... AB, Martin, Bosh, Yao, Scola (IMO that is a championship team) If the rockets are in it to win it taking on one of toronto's uglier contracts may be worth it to retain scola. Not sure if the salaries match but just wondering what people think about the idea?
I think the Raptors would want much more than that in a trade. I'm sure they want some instant young talent in return, and Hill isn't exactly that yet. We've already heard the rumors that LA would be willing to part with Bynum to get Bosh. Rockets would have to throw in another draft pick or younger player imo.
It has nothing to do with want Toronto wants at this point, they lost that leverage at the trade deadline. Its all about what CB4 wants and where he chooses to play. If he chooses Houston and we are over the cap, we have to send back enough salary in order to match the salaries, but only enough "young pieces/picks" to make the salary added worth taking back. We wouldnt have to beat anyone elses offer. Where our leverage comes into play is we can make a sign and trade with Toronto and make it worthwhile without gutting our core, unlike say a Portand or a Dallas, who would almost assuredly have to send back core pieces of thier rotation (ie Aldridge) to make it work. Sure plenty of teams have the capspace to sign him, but none of them would be a contender next year, which appeals to him. Here in Houston we can offer the greatest combination of things that appear to be important to Chris: 1.) Contending Team immediatley 2.) No state taxes 3.) Close to his home 4.) #1 option 5.) Great coaching/management 6.) Warm weather No other team can offer all that, which is why we are early favorites to land him.
Why nobody of the guys asking for Bosh answer directly....what to do with Bosh ego? He clearly stated that he wants to go to a franchise to be built around him.... Are you sure that current Houston roster and style fits that wish? Do you realize that Yao would have to accept to be a secondary option if Bosh comes? Do you think the team chemistry won't be harmed by introducing a 'my stats first' guy into the roster and with the express request of him being the primary scoring option?
The thing I like the most about Morey is that he always strives for win-win situations for everybody. And it seems Scola's circumstances would only work in the Rockets' favour. We can't really lose - either keep Scola in beast mode, or trade Scola + AB + matching salary for Bosh (for example). Either way the Rocket's can be pretty good. Plus, we got Scola for practically nothing in the first place c.f. where he is now (same as almost every other player on the team), so in essence it translates to trading cash relief for San Antonio + late first rounders/second rounders for Bosh/Amare. Why not?
Yao stopped being the number 1 option last May when he went down with a stress fracture. Anything he can give this team is a bonus. I dont think saying "I am the type of player a franchise should be built around" means I have to get my stats first. Even if it is, Kobe Bryant has that exact same attitude, and it hasnt prevented the Lakers sucess.
Between Hill and Scola, I would much rather give up Scola, yes the guy is a beast but his also going to be 31 by next years playoffs(Birthday on, April 30th 1980)...which will shoot down his trade value...we need to sell high with Scola while we still can... The same thing applies to Aaron Brooks, his value will also take a hit when he goes from avg. 20 ppg to possibly 14-15 ppg when Yao comes back... Basically we need to sell high with Brooks & Scola while there trade value is still high...with that said I would do something like this... Brooks Battier Scola NY pick for Bosh Calderon --RB
The problem here I believe is Toronto wants to rid themselves of Calderon or Turkoglu contracts... but who is willing to take on that much salary??? So if Bosh says he wants out... the way I see it is they can have a few options... 1. Let him walk. This get toronto nothing except saving them cap space for who??? 2. Sign and Trade bosh alone for some good players with ok contracts (maybe some expirings to make the deal work) and draft picks. i say good players because I doubt that anybody is going to give them any better if Bosh wants out. Toronto would prefer this to option 1 because they get something in return. 3. They can sign and trade Bosh and Hedo/Calderon. This requires that the receiving team give up a lot too match salaries. On top of that they are pretty much stuck with Hedo/Calderon who are not worth as much as they are guaranteed. Here I think is were Toronto would want to deal because if Bosh wants out, how do they get rid o Hedo or Calderon on there on (they are pretty untradeable alone). so why not send them out with bosh who is already leaving. Now the question here is what does Toronto get back in this deal. In my opinion they have no leverage in this situation but it is still the better option for them, I do not see too many teams lining up to trade the core players of their teams, expirings and every asset they have to take on that much salary. Therefore I think some decent players with ok contracts, expirings and picks will suffice. I would do Scola for Bosh but personally I would tell them to shove it if they asked for brooks (look at his salary, he is way to valuable at that price). However I would trade Lowry (I think he is definitely more replaceable through the draft). To me this is simple, 2 decently paid guys who can score 20+ a game are more valuable than an all star who is paid max money. So Toronto can do Bynum for Bosh... where Bosh wont be the focal point of the team. Bynum is overrated anyways. or Toronto can get some decent players with good contracts and expirings, picks for Bosh and get rid of $9 million/yr contracts in Hedo/Calderon. Remember this is assuming Bosh tells toronto he wants to be traded. This is a completely rebuilding move for Toronto where they can get rid a long ugly contract. these are all very "what if" arguments so we shall see... But I think Morey will make the right decision.
Still waiting for someone to show me were Scola said he would like to finish his career on a losing team and never win a ring.
