I dont agree, Iwould have loved to seen that part. The Shire in shambles, the whipping of the Southrons by the Samwise-led hobbits..the final defeat of Saruman and Wormtongue? forget terrible cinema...its a great end to the story.
Me too, I loved that part of the story. I think they could have made it work. It completes the plot so well. Sorry to hear they removed it. And Saruman too. I'm going to have to stop reading this thread, too many spoilers.
I agree its a decent end to the story of the hobbits, and is nice in the book. However I just think its a bit slow. Yeah, it makes Merry and Pippin look like even bigger heroes, but I think Pippen's heroics regarding Faramir and Merry's heroics on the battlefield are perfect for the movie. I just dont see it as a good ending to the movie, therefore I am glad they hacked it out. I think it would have been anticlimatic, and slow.
What about when Gandalf, Frodo and the Elves get on the boat to sail off into the next life? Is that still in there?
I'm anticipating this movie alot...When I first saw the first one in theaters, I hated it,...but after viewing the first one and two on DVD, I changed my opinion and I'm hooked big-time... Even if I go alone, I WILL go see it ASAP...
Be sure to stay til the end because there will be 12 alternate endings to the movie. Some things that will be cut out of the theatre that I find dissapointing is the mouth of Sauron is gone, but will be in the Extended Edition (The guy that was the Trainman in Matrix: Revolutions is doing the mouth of Sauron part.) , and resolving Saruman is gone as well but should be in the Extended Edition as well. I'm reading the 3rd book over again just to prepare for my time to see it. It'll be the opening day midnight special. 4 screens in one theatre are showing it all at 12:01. It should be so amazing to watch it unfold. From what I heard Eowyn speaks word for word in her fight against the Witch King and that just tickles my spine so much. This may sound weird but I miss Tom Bombadil in the movies. As much of a fruit he was in Fellowship, he was a mysterious hippie badass.
You guys get some movies early though. When I was down there in 2000, I remember seeing X-Men before it came out in the States.
yeah sometimes, especially if they have one off release dates, then because of time differences we get them first they have released all the LORs on 26th of December which is a public holiday here and hence a big day for movies.
Wait a minute, the Mouth of Sauron is gone? G.d. m.f.ing Peter Jackson! That's an awesome scene. What are they gonna do, just throw open the Black Gates when the good guys show up? That blows. How he cuts Saruman from the theatrical version will be interesting, given how the Palantir comes into play, the impetus for Gandalf getting Pippin to Minas Tirith in the first place. People might be asking, Well, what happened to Saruman? (Those who don't read the books.) Also gone are the scenes in the Houses of the Healing. I guess they'll just cut to the end and show Faramir crawling on top of his new gal while they play "That's the Way (Uh Hunh Uh Hunh) I Like it (Uh Hunh Uh Hunh)". If Jackson hasn't bothered to show all those worthless scenes in TTT of mothers and kids on their way to Helm's Deep ("oh sh*t, the Wargs, the Wargs!"), then hugging each other ("oh sh*t, the Orcs the Orcs!") in the caves (hoping to lure in watchers of the Lifetime channel---those poor widows and orphans!), maybe he could have kept the meeting between Gandalf and Saruman in TTT where it belonged, rather than pushing it to the last movie, then dumping it on the cutting room floor, saying that "it seemed like old story, dragging the pace of the final movie" (paraphrase). Anyone go to Edwards to catch TTT? Great big screen. I hadn't seen the extended version. Far superior to the Reader's Digest version. I suppose that Jackson, having cut one freaking hour from the final cut to get to 3 hrs 12 minutes (not including the credits) for TROTK, will have lots more to share a year from now. THAT's what I can't wait to see. Ironically, the extended versions of the first two films might have picked up a few more Oscars. Faramir was well fleshed out rather than the stiff-necked dipwad we see in the shorter version. Etc etc. I'm still looking forward to this A WHOLE BUNCH. Just wish I didn't have to wait so long to see the difference between the "movie" and the "film."
Damn you guys for posting so many spoilers in this thread! Of course I didn't read all of it. I will be watching it tomorrow at 10:00pm! Trilogy Tuesday for me baby! I haven't been this excited about anything ever!!!!!!! My life will be half complete.
I can't remember the actors name (Saruman) but he was really pissed they took out all the scenes with him in it. He said he wasn't going to go to the premier because he didn't see any point since his part in the making of the movie was deleted. He had a couple of scenes. (I don't think he went to the premier...unless he changed his mind)
Basically in agreement with all of the above. I mean a lot of the coolest parts of the third book appear to have no setup from the first two. Like Merry's sword being made by the ancient enemies of the Sorcerer King of Angband, who happens to be the ringwraith he faces. Like the Elfstone not be properly explained so that there is no Lieutenant of Barad-Dur scene saying "It takes more than a piece of Elvish glass and rabble such as these to make a king." Like no breaking of Saruman's staff, no Prince Imrahil, no Houses of Healing, etc. etc. etc. It seems that a lot was sacrificed for meaningless scenes. I will refer to these scenes as "Peter Jacksonisms". Along with the propensity for every establishing shot being the same sweeping overhead one, and terribly cheesy slow motion, he also has completely worthless scenes which don't further the plot. Best example: Fellowhip, in Moria, before the bridge. The nine spend 10 minutes negotiating a tricky stretch of stairs, in which we hear the memorable lines "Nobody tosses a dwarf" and "Not the beard" as well as the signature cueing of the main theme after a triumphang moment to let the audience know that a triumph has occured. Heard of subtlety PJ? I predict that I will like the movie as an entertaining screen adaptation of a great book, and the visuals will be stunning as usual but the film will lack any real quality and be extremely cheesy and children's movie-ish.
Jackson was making a movie for the masses...not only for fanboys like you guys - some things got to go. While cheesy, undoubtedly if Jackson has left out those scense of "emotional trauma" people would be complaining about the lack of context in terms of the potential finality the war with Sauraman may have caused. Great things are just put up on even higher pedestals, making them even more open to criticism. In this case, it has thus far been unwarranted, imo.
I'm not being sarcastic. It was said so in a movie review I read. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...031211/ap_en_mo/film_review_lord_of_the_rings Unless their story is full of **** then I'm dead serious.
Also 12 endings might not be so bad. It could address all that goes on that they might have to cut for time discrepency. The purging of the shire, Arwen dieing, etc. Although I hope they put the purging of the shire in there in the movie since it is so important. As for the spoilers, come on The books been out for a long time now
I just really dont see the scouring of the Shire being that important. It was always more of a p.s. to a great letter. I guess its absence will make the movie more enjoyable for me and less for those who truly loved that part of the book. Nomar, maybe they just go with Merry using the dagger that Galadriel gave him. Not exactly the same story, but good enough for the average movie viewer. As long as he and Eowyn tag team the bad guy in that battle, and they keep the dialogue (which I hear they are), I will be happy.
