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The Look On The Bright Side Thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DonnyMost, Nov 3, 2004.

  1. nyquil82

    nyquil82 Member

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    eh, now that most of the country is red, i've moved my priorities from the country to myself. Personally, I benefit a lot from Bush, I'll be doing corporate law, im not gay, I own property, I'm going to be rich, I'll be marrying a doctor who will hopefully not have to pay as much insurance in the future while earning more. I also know ways to legally pay less tax, loopholes that Kerry would have closed.

    Before the election, I really cared about the state of the nation and our place in the world. Now that bush has won, i can resort to being selfish, taking and not giving, shirking responsibility, etc. I've said before that i didn't like bush despite how much I gain personally from his policies. Since he has the majority vote, I can only assume that America approves of my type of life and finds nothing wrong with the fact that I'm being awarded for being born into the right family.

    besides, i don't have to be patriotic anymore, i only have to say it. Those who opposed the president didn't do a good enough job to win, the best thing for me to do is stop complaining and dredging about it and enjoy the free ride under W. Those hurt under the administration had their chance and I supported them then, but sorry, now you're on your own until 2008.
     
  2. 4chuckie

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    let me be very clear on this: John kerry would not have effected outsourcing.

    Kerry's "plan" all along was to close tax breaks Bush created to encourage outsourcing. Now i hate to disappoint you but Bush created no tax laws (nor did he open any loopholes) that encouraged outsourcing.

    All kerry could have done (which he proposed) was to lower taxes of companies which don't outsource. One question though how does he pay for that? If he did what he said he would have done he would have had to raise someone else taxes to pay for it.
     
  3. MR. MEOWGI

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    Like the ones who do?
     
  4. Rocket River

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    Hillary in '08

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  5. Ender120

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  6. RIET

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    Most people don’t realize presidents really have very little impact on the economy. The economy is cyclical and expansions occur when there is new technology, new and better products and services or more efficiencies which increase productivity.

    Outsourcing is just a byproduct of making the US more competitive with its international peers.

    What’s interesting is that both parties promised new jobs – or at least saving current ones.

    What neither candidate will admit is manufacturing jobs will be lost forever, there will be continued forays into white collar positions and there will be a Darwinistic evolution where only those strong enough to adapt will survive. These are all natural market forces which true capitalists can appreciate.

    Unfortunately for the Republicans, many of their constituents’ jobs will go bye bye forever. Many of these people voted with their “religious heart” and not their “wallet”.

    In the next several years, many “religious” voters who have these jobs will become disenchanted. You can play the religion card, you can play the terror card. However, if you can’t “solve terrorism, can’t exit Iraq gracefully, continue to rack up huge budget deficits, offer huge tax breaks to the ultra wealthy, and can’t stop the outsourcing bleeding - what is left?

    Usually one party can blame the other when these things don’t materialize. However, now Republicans with their overwhelming “mandate” will have to deliver on everything they promised - which is virtually impossible.

    For the next four years, I will enjoy my lower marginal tax brackets and lower cap gains rates and adjust my finances to take advantage of these opportunities.

    I will also enjoy watching lower middle income Republicans try to figure out exactly how they’ve benefited from anything the Republicans have promised.
     
  7. mr_gootan

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    Dead voters are more reliable than young voters, and they're easier to convince, too.
     
  8. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Please God, let the Democrats run Hillary in '08.
     
  9. ima_drummer2k

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    You think there was a high Republican turnout this time around...
     
  10. bigtexxx

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    Agreed. I believe she would be absolutely PASTED in the election. Karl Rove would be the end of that woman.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Jeb Bush would be BY FAR a better president that W.

    DD
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    The bright side for me was the measure in California that passed to give extensive funding to stem cell research. It starts next year. California now gives more funding to stem cell research than any other state, making it a leader in search for possible cures.

    So far this looks like the best chance for a cure for type 1 diabetes. For all the diabetes sufferers out there worried about long term affects such as blindness, loss of a kidney, loss of a limb, heart disease, lowered immune system etc. this measure was huge, and gives a lot of people a lot of hope.
     
  13. moestavern19

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    John Ellis Bush / Rudolph Guiliani in 08.
     

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