No, because that implies they get something back. They are simply going to let Staley and Vincent and/or Taylor walk I am fairly sure.
Nah. He shoulda said "McNabb's RECEIVERS are overrated" and that "the media is shocked to see him succeed with such low talent at the WR spot."
McNabb is an average QB at best when he is forced to stay in the pocket...his accuracy is severly lacking. The best team won DD
I guess Rush was right. DD Yeah... never mind that McNabb took a team with maybe the worst receivers and worst running backs in the NFL, and led them to three straight NFC title games. Since he didn't win this one game (nevermind his injury in the 1st half), he's overrated. More quality DD analysis.
Major, I think he is a good QB, notice the Wink on the Rush comment? He was my fantasy QB, and had a very rough year. Sure his receivers are suspect and his RB's are as well, but he still is not in the top tier at his position IMHO. Brady, McNair, Manning, Favre. Those are the best in the league...and McNabb would be just below that. DD
As the score always indicates. BUt just like Rush, your defending your comments because you mis-spoke. McNabb overrated? Not nearly as much as an over-acheiver. Best QB hands down? Definitely not. Best team leader? Close to it. Years in the league to conference championship ratio (wins or not) is phenomenal. Rated correctly. Just too much expected of one man in a backfield surrounded by ineptitude and lack. (Similar thing with Ricky Williams as a RB.)
Iroc, Read my comments again...I said if he is kept in the pocket he is average at best. IMHO he needs to use his feet more to be effective..... Nowhere did I say he was not a good QB.....he is, just not great. DD
That's where you mis-spoke. Rush said he was overrated, and just a product of the media "wanting a black QB to succeed." That's what I was picking on. I never said he was great either as a QB... but a leader. I don't think Tom Brady is great either. It's just that he's leading a better core of recievers and has running backs and an O-line. McNabb would be facing Brady if he had the quality of receivers, running backs and an O-line line Brady's. In fact, may have won the Conference game for all three years... But that's beside the point. I was mainly speaking to your bringing up Rush. Rush said a boneheaded thing... even though there may have been a slanted segment of truth to it, it was wrong to word it that way. You brought it up... and I just was saying that given the talent around McNabb, it proves more and more his UNDER rating... as at least a leader. He's top 10 as of now in the league. But I agree, in pure QB skills he's not great.
I'm starting to think that if I could have my pick of any QB... I'd take Tom Brady. What could he do with the Titan's receivers? His running game is the worst in the NFL, right? I guess his O-line pass blocks well. The guy is Mr. Effeciency.
I prefer Montana But I have one Question about McNabb CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HOLD ON TO A D*MN PASS IN PHILLY His receivers are by far the worse I have seen in the playoffs So many dropped passes . . in crucial situations. . . . I felt McNabb's pain . . . . . Then getting Crunched on a late hit did not help If McNabb was in the NBA he'd probably be demanding a Trade!!1 Rocket River
There is no doubt McNabb is better than Farve now. Farve isn't even his teams 1st option anymore. Actually he could not have been any more wrong. The Iggles team and other garbage players have been consistently overrated, and McNabb underrated. McNabb belongs mention with McNair, Manning, Brady and Vick as one of the best 5 QBs playing now. I am honestly not sure who is the best, but McNabb has as good a case as any. At least 3 times McNabb has advanced his team in the playoffs over a better more talented opponernt, the Bears in soldier field a couple years ago and the Pack this year really come to mind. Look at the number of QBs that have done that (single handely beat the better team in the playoffs), I can't think of many of recent. I remember alot of people on this board were saying Peyon was overrated the last couple of years too. Truth is Peyton has been this good for a while, he is just getting better players and coaches now. People have a hard time seperating what the individual player does from what he is afforded by the other 21 guys on the field.
I just don't see how McNabb can be seen as overrated. Desert Scar, who is obviously not an Eagles fan, even can state that he is not. Many people said the two years before this year the Eagles defense carried the Eagles as far as it went. Well how do you account for the fact that the Eagles defense this year was mediocre, at best, and one of the lowest ranked and most inconsistent in the league and the Eagles still managed to succeed? Their rushing was barely noticeable even though they had three nice backs in Staley,. Their receiving core is among the league's worst, McNabb's once and only reliable received Chad Lewis is slipping, James Thrash was brought in to help in that department but has had a minimal effect, Pinkston is now known as "Stinkston" throughout Philly, Mitchell is a big-time underacheiver, and it doesn't get any better after him. They miss big catches and any catches for that matter and do not run correct routes, at least two of McNabb's three picks in Sunday's loss can be blamed on those things. All the other quarterbacks mentioned have something to compensate for all the things McNabb is lacking on his team. McNabb is a top 5 quarterback, if you don't think so then you're only fooling yourself.
McNabb has the skills for the thrills. What he doesn't have is a supporting cast, except for Deuce Staley. Surround McNabb with Peyton Manning's RBs and WRs, and he would look alot different.
Not to Mention the offensive scheme of Bill Walsh. Montana was the ultimate system QB. Elway and the Broncos were still a super bowl joke until Terrell Davis and the offensive line came along. The Question is... What makes a QB's career great? Super Bowl wins? MVP Trophies? Career Stats? 4th Quarter comebacks? For a team with an anomoly like an insane Defense, the QB position almost becomes irrelevant.. such as Jim McMahon and the 85 Bears, or Trent Dilfer and the 2000 Ravens, in such a case as this, the QB's philosophy changes from "lead this team" to "Don't **** up." Dan Marino never won the big game but threw for 5000 yards in a season, Johnny Unitas has some insane streak where he threw a TD pass in 50 some-odd games, John Elway more often than not was the guy who pulled a win out of his ass, Joe Montana was often described as the conductor of a symphony that was the great 49ers offense. One could argue Steve Young did just as good in the same system under George Siefert.
