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The league has figured Yao out, or Rick is a bad coach

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rocketman101, Apr 22, 2009.

  1. MadMax

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    Yao is a good player. I have no interest on being on his nuts.

    I'm concerned with this franchise over-valuing him, though. I'm concerned that they think they have a guy who can be "the man" on a championship squad when they look at Yao. I don't believe he can be. I believe he's too easily taken out of the flow of a game....and the great ones aren't.
     
  2. apxn82

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    I think the world of KG and if he cant do it by himself you can forget about Yao being able to. I agree and it's a team game after all. You gotta surround him with the right players that know how to cover his flaws.

    Just my personal opinion. If you pair Yao up with D-wade they could win 2 or 3 rings together.
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    As I said "Yao aint Hakeem"

    The arguments here about Adelman being a bad coach seem to be predicated on the belief that Yao is Hakeem like and if we can just get him the dam ball he will stuff it down the whole Blazer team's throat. Many seem to feel that somehow its Adelman that's holding him back. As other posters have pointed out great players figure out how to get good position, defeat fronting and double teams. This isn't Adelman being an idiot or disliking Yao its that he's seen Yao for years now and knows that we can't just force feed him the ball because that often results in turnovers.
     
  4. redao

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    that's exactly why Yao will leave Houston. It is easier for Yao to go to a team with a star player than wait for Morey to bring one.

    Kobe, Wade, Lebron, Deron Williams, Tony Parker, Chris Paul, Derek Rose, ..........too many destinations.
     
  5. apxn82

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    if he has to leave to get a ring, I wouldnt blame him for leaving. If rox cant do it there's no point in keeping him. Just like our other sport team. If Texans can't put together a team good enuff to win big, they should let Andre Johnson go. He's a premier receiver. It's a waste of his talent keeping him here and win 8/8 every year.
     
  6. MadMax

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    yao doesn't have to be hakeem....but yao is ridiculously efficient. there's a reason why they're trying to deny him the ball, after all. you have a better chance when yao is in the flow of the offense than when he's not. if you're going to go far in the playoffs, he's going to need to be more than a decoy.
     
  7. TheFreak

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    Hakeem didn't struggle against Seattle until he started getting old. Check his stats from their '93 playoff series. He dominated them.
     
  8. tinman

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    teach them the truth because the truth is rare these days.
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    Yao is ridiculously efficient when he's being played one on one from behind and has a good position in the post. He's not when he's being fronted and/or doubled. Adelman knows that Yao is very efficient but he's not going to focus the whole offense on forcefeeding Yao when the other team is playing a defense that has been shown to cause problems for Yao.
     
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    I think too much emphasis is often placed on the 95-96 sweep than on the overall situation with Seattle.
     
  11. tinman

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    yes, apparently people forgot in 92-93, we didn't have home court against the Sonics and lost because of that. They couldn't beat us at the Summit (now Joel Olsteen church).

    and in that series, we were one missed kenny smith jumper from advancing.
     
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    Or one Spurs tip in 2 seconds after the game was over from having game 7 at home.
     
  13. MadMax

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    Then we're screwed. And that leads to my point about decisions this franchise needs to make going forward.

    Look, our offense shot 50% the other night with Yao only shooting 6 times. AWESOME!! But I don't that we should count on that as a statistical trend. We will need someone to go to down the stretches of playoff games to hit high percentage shots...and when your most efficient player can be completely removed from the flow of a game, that's a problem.
     
  14. apxn82

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    Let me ask you another question MADMAX. Comparing today team with the Championship team which team has more talents? (exclude Yao and Dream).

    If you ask me i think the championship team has better talent. Maybe not as good individually but it was a better all around team. (keep in mind Yao is no where near the level of Dream meaning whatever talents they surround Dream with during the championship run they need to double that with Yao).

    If they surround Yao with a lesser team, it's almost impossible for this team to reach PROMISE LAND. JUST MY 2 CENTS.
     
  15. tinman

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    well, I think you can point out the guard positions when you are comparing these teams.

    Those champion Rocket teams had low turnover guards and they didn't have such a difficult time getting the center the ball.
     
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    true but at PF I would rather have OT than what we have today. OT might not be as good a scorer as what we have now but he's long and tought. Exactly what Yao need next to him.
     
  17. tinman

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    well OT shot like 60% from the field. (90% dunks)
     
  18. apxn82

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    if Chuckwagon can add like 3 or 4 inches to his body!
     
  19. teampunjabi

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    I totally agree that Yao needs to play some face up basketball. I think the pick and pop with Aaron and Yao would set up Yao with that 15ft. jumper which I think he can hit.
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    You think the Blazers are going to sit back and let Brooks and Wafer torch them? The Blazers are going to have to commit to defending more than Yao if the other players keep on scoring. When they do that things will open back up for Yao.

    This is a team game and what the Rockets are proving is that the whole is greater than the Yao.
     

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