I started writing my post before you but then left the computer, so I didn't get to see that someone had already posted this. I agree wholeheartedly. The team would have to finish 6-10 or worse imo for Kubiak to get fired this year.
It would be pretty insane to fire someone after a winning season, especially given the Texans' history. Just seeing what people think a reasonable benchmark would be.
It's a long season. For each awesome win (Colts, Skins) we have an equally craptacular loss (Boys, Giants). The Texans' defense turned a real corner after week 5 last year, if they can do it again, we might have a happy ending to this season after all.
but remember all the talk about us being contenders, of being one of the better teams in the NFL? who thinks that now? seriously delusional fanbase in my opinion. i'm looking at it from a little more detached viewpoint and i see a very average football team, nothing more. is that good enough?
9-7 record with a playoff appearance and its all good, I am a believer that as long as you get in then you have a shot like the Jets, Cards, Steelers and even the year the Colts won the SB all proved. 10-6 and no playoffs would make it VERY tough to fire Kubes, it may depend on how we got to 10-6. 9-7 and NO playoffs will be tough on Bob to pull the plug but 5 years of NO playoffs and without double digit wins, it's time to go. I am nowhere near panicking right now, to many teams are as flawed as the Texans to be eliminating them from anything. Texans are right in the middle on this madness so peeps need to give them more the 5 weeks before jumping off the bandwagon.
Maybe I get more cranky about it than most, but when we're season ticket holders, eat our entire Sunday, pay all the cash, and watch the team go through the paces like it was an exhibition...it does get my blood pressure up. It's insulting. If I paid to go see someone in concert and they came out hungover, disinterested, and pissed all over the audience....I'd want my money back. And it steams me that no one in the franchise, Kubiak, Smith, McNair ever displays the slightest sense of urgency or frustration when this team comes out at home and has explosive diarrhea all over the field. 8 years and counting, and we'll never sniff the playoffs with this sort of complacency. So when I see the people clamoring about "it's just one game" "3-2 is still great!" "why are you criticizing Schaub?"...I get annoyed. If you aren't saying these things, then don't take it personally. I'm just fed up with the excuse making. This team should have been in the playoffs last year but blew it. They should be there this year, but are still going to throw away halves and games and be half hearted about it. It sucks caring about a team that couldn't care less.
:grin: And the field crew just finished cleaning the explosive diarrhea off the field from Week 3. Back to work!
Yeah, laying an egg at home against a beatable opponent, after dropping all that dough and time, is disheartening to say the least. Hit 'em where it hurts. Vote with your wallet.
Probably the only positive out of a mediocre season might be getting a new coach. (Cowher or Gruden) :grin:
I get the frustration, big time. I just disagree with being all that concerned about Schaub. Schaub's arm absolutely won us a game this season that would have otherwise been an L. Ask me to list my top 10 concerns with the Texans so far, and I doubt Schaub makes the list. Truthfully, I doubt anyone on the offensive end of the ball makes the list before #6.
That disgusts me. Even more-so than the Texans performance on Sunday. We haven't gotten it handed to us like that since the Jets game. The Cowboys game wasn't close, but we weren't dominated in all aspects of the game like this. I'm just ready for some consistency. The only thing consistent about the entire Kubiak era is that we've been entirely inconsistent. We don't "bring it" the same way every game. They'll never admit it, but I'm sure we all got a little complacent being 3-1 and didn't prepare and play with the same sense of desperation and urgency that we would have had we lost last week. We lose one, then we win one to provide some relief, then we get complacent because we're coming off of a win and the pressure isn't there. I'm sure they put in the same amount of time in the meetings, practice, and film rooms for each game- but the results suggest that there is something missing during weeks like this past week. Last year, Kubiak's job was on the line and our backs were against the wall, and we win the last 4 games to close out the season ... where is that kind of desperation early in the season, like yesterday? As long as we have something to play for, there is no excuse for the intensity not being there...and that's on Kubiak. It's so frustrating. If we don't beat the Chiefs, we are headed down the same path that we've gone through the last 4 years. The same inevitable mid-season slump and then a December rally to save his job and build up the hype for next year. All that being said, the Giants aren't exactly a walk-over. It was eerie as I thought last week how much it reminded me of the Jets game last year- everyone was predicting an easy win without even thinking about what the Giants were capable of. It was almost like we were playing the Raiders again. It seems the team felt this way too.
bingo. Bingo. BINGO. in 9 years the best this team has done is just miss the playoffs. you have a solid core, young exciting players, and the momentum of finishing relatively strong last year and are enterring an uncapped year yet make ZERO improvements via free agency??? you have a team sitting on the cusp of the playoffs, have no salary cap concerns coming into the offseason, yet decide to not only let go one of your best defensive backs but make absolute no attempt to replace him, electing to literally hand it over to a rookie???? THAT is a joke. you're either committed to making this team a contender for the FIRST TIME EVER or you're not. this team is going on a decade of utter failure and doing absolutely nothing to address a glaring deficiency is a slap to the face of your fanbase - a fanbase that has loyally stuck by you although you've given them very little reason to do so. basically.... stop being a ******* p*ssy and make something happen! sign schoebel, sign whatever serviceable dback you can find, fire your special teams coach.... just do SOMETHING to prove that you actually give a ****.
^ In that picture, the caption reads hakeem the dream! How dare they use that. It's sacred. I find it funny that writers make it seem like that the receivers the Texans face are coming into their own. When in reality, it's our horrible D that makes them look like jerry rice. I bet corey 'hands of stone' bradford could rack up 200 yards against this pathetic secondary.
Let me start by saying: I like Schaub I appreciate Schaub I am grateful to have a top 10 QB behind center, a serious blessing in this league that isn't granted. I don't blame him (entirely) for the losses Schaub, this season, has been quietly uneven. 3 games out of 5 he's looked shaky at best, with sub-80 QB ratings to go along with it (53 yesterday). And it's not just the stats, a lot of bad throws, bad decisions, not as alert in the pocket (11 sacks taken - #2 in the league). More than I'd expect from him. I am surprised by it, and don't know why we're seeing it. Against Indy, who cared, Foster exploded on them and it was inconsequential. Against Washington, he looked like himself after halftime. Relief. Against Dallas, at home, he was bad. Couldn't get the long ball delivered, and two picks that were very much his fault. Folks rip the defense, but 13 points isn't beating a lot of teams in this league (fewest points scored against Dallas this year). Against Oakland, he did fine, especially with a decent secondary and no Johnson. Yesterday, he was awful. Any one bad game, okay. Everyone has a rough outing. I get that. But 3 in the first 5 games qualifies as struggling. I'm not saying this to hate on him, call him out, or anything along those lines. Leinart can stay on the bench (LOL). But we can't win consistently with a horrid defense surrendering 24+ points every single week if our high octane offense blinks in and out week to week. I have confidence Schaub will steady himself, but I have to consider it at least a mild concern at the moment.
In the words of Eddie Murphy in Life, this team is sofT: <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/5AjvtMvJzik?fs=1&hl=en_US&start=24"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/5AjvtMvJzik?fs=1&hl=en_US&start=24" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> Seriously, though, the team is just coming back down to Earth, which sucks as a fan because we were all hyped up, but at the end of the day, this is who we are: consistently inconsistent. Whether a new HC changes that or not, I don't know, but I'd like to see Kubes' team come out better prepared and not have these disappointing games, ESPECIALLY at home.
You're saying he struggled 3 out of 5 games...that would have to include Indy. I don't think he struggled in that game...they just didn't use him at all in the second half. They only threw the ball 17 times the whole game. I agree with you that he struggled against the cowgirls and the Giants. It's just not on my radar of real concerns for this team this year, though.
while the situations couldn't be any more different, this statement is absolutely laden with irony... :grin: :grin:
