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The Kubiak Question

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Rocket River, Oct 10, 2010.

  1. rockets934life

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    Your not getting me this time my friend...Sarcasm meter is ON. ;)
     
  2. DieHard Rocket

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    I've never been more confident that Kubiak doesn't "get it" than I have at this moment.

    Listening to the presser, all he talks about for KJ is how bright his future is and how good of a kid he is and that he deserves to be out there.

    Gary, do you freaking realize that these last two games are the difference in the season? Both were winnable and you have just pissed them away. Now you're talking like this is to be expected and acting like there's still time to make a season out of it.

    There is absolutely no sense of urgency. It's disgusting. It's going to take until week 15 until he gives another corner a shot at this rate.
     
  3. Rocket River

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    I said last year . . on his own . .. Kubiak cost the Texans about 2~3 games

    This year he cost the last two.

    How many games have the Texans won because of his brilliant strategy/coaching etc?

    I said he doesn't COACH UP his talent
    He does not make anyone better . . . .

    Rocket River
     
  4. No Worries

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    I am sure Kubiak thought the sneak was the right, smart call or he would not have called it. And I am100% sure that everyone here would have praise Kubiak from the highest mountains if the sneak worked.
    Maybe a bit of an overstatement. Some haters gotta hate.

    For me, I hang this loss on the secondary. I blame Kubiak for calling all of those plays where the safety failed to provide cover support.

    Any bets that next year the Texans will use their first round pick on a play-maker Strong Safety who hit and cover?
     
  5. TheDreams

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    Thats what I'm sensing also. He sounds like he believes he has a lot of job security. According to him KJ makes 60-65 good plays in a game but the 5 bad ones are magnified.

    When pressed if at some point those 5 bad plays outweigh the 60-65 good plays, Kubiak said he "believes in him and sees all the good things he does in practice. KJ gives them their best shot at winning." If he honestly believes everything he said about KJ, then Kubiak needs to be drug tested pronto. KJ may do a lot of good things in practice but it only takes someone with half a brain to see that it isn't translating during the actual game. If Kubiak really believes KJ is their best option out there, he must think the other CBs are just God awful.
     
  6. Coach AI

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    Whats hard to understand is that you can still 'believe' in a kid but there's nothing wrong with understanding how difficult it is to throw a rookie into one of the toughest positions on the field. Kubiak is either lying his ass off and they've tried to find some help there but couldn't find anyone, or he (amazingly) doesn't put much stock into how much the secondary/Jackson's mistakes are hurting the team.

    You can get the kid some help, Kubiak, and it doesn't mean you are telling him you don't 'believe' in him. He's a rookie for crying out loud. He should be able to handle it.

    Quit feeding us the 'he's fine we believe in him' bull**** it makes you look inept.
     
  7. rockets934life

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    Well he said he made the wrong call and thought it was less the yard, that was the only reason he was willing to do it.
     
  8. TheDreams

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    Kubiak said during his presser that it was not a good call and he wishes he could have it back. His mistake was that he assumed it was half a yard and if he could go back he would have called a TO. You can pretty much blame all the losses at this point on the secondary. But it was Kubiak's decision to let Dunta walk, and not bring in another veteran. He thought he could get by with starting an inexperienced secondary and its blowing up in his face right now.
     
  9. JayGoogle

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    Honestly guys, the guy behind Kareem is no better.

    Kareem gets beat on big plays and it's not ALL his fault, one of them was the Safety's fault who let his man go and the only reason Kareem was trailing was because he realized this.

    The other one he was just beat. The best thing Gary said was win as a team and lose as one, especially on defense. One person can make a mistake and make the entire defense look bad. Discipline is the most important thing on defense and obviously our guys are not being taught that.

    They make so many mistakes, letting guys go right past them every week. You begin to wonder if our coaches have any idea on how defense is played in the NFL.
     
  10. v3.0

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    Kubiak can talk about Kareem's bright future all he wants, he may not be around to reap that reward.

    It would be kinda funny that the next coach takes the Texans to the playoffs and beyond, and Texans fans will pontificate that the coach just took Kubiak's personnel and it wasn't really the next coach's team just yet. Yeah whatever.
     
  11. Hey Now!

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    I'd be curious to know which 2~3 games and how he lost them.

    This is, at best, specious reasoning. While I agree with any issues one might have had with playcalling, you can't just assume a different game plan is properly executed and the team wins. They did lose to a fairly decent Colts team at home in primetime - something A LOT of teams, even great ones, do often.

    And yesterday, he had the Texans in position to score twice - how is it Kubiak's fault Foster couldn't complete the touchdown (dumb rule, btw) and Johnson not only drops an easy catch but kicks it right to a defender to end what could have been a game-winning drive? I'm not absolving Kubiak - but I think the players should shoulder some blame, too.

    Isn't what has consistently been one of the best offenses in football the past two years his creation? Did he not call a brilliant game against the Colts this year? What about them slicing and dicing Oakland rushing the football with Foster on the bench?

    You can't lump all the bad stuff on him and then give him no credit for the good stuff; that's disingenuous, IMO.

    Matt Schaub was a Pro Bowl QB in ATL? The undrafted Arian Foster was the NFL's leading rusher with his previous team? He turned a 4th round TE into a Pro Bowler; generated a 1,500-yard season out of Steve Slaton; could be sending Vonta leach to the island...

    I'm not Kubiak's biggest fan - but I don't think you're being totally fair with what he's done here.
     
  12. Stack24

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    Not to jump in the middle of this but on your first point up there, I completely agree that it's not his fault about Fosters TD or anything like that, but why did he not continue to use what was working for them in the first half, in the second? In the Indy game it was obvious they couldn't stop the run just like the first game yet he went away from it? If you keep running it, eventually Freeny and Mathis won't be able to continue attacking Shaub because Foster is gashing your defense up like he did in week 1. You want to defend against Peyton? Keep his ass off the field and wind down the clock with hard nosed running which we were dong.

    In this game against the Chargers it was the same thing. Go for 99 yards and 2 TDs and then in the second half you kind of shy away from it and start passing more.

    That is the play calling I question here. I want an explanation from Kubiak on that. Who continues to run away from what's working?

    In the Raiders game he continued to pound it with Ward, Slaton, and Foster and it worked. That's why those games we were able to control and win.

    I give him credit where it is due, but the past 2 weeks he has changed the game plan and it has hurt us in my opinion.
     
  13. updawg

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    this is what I'm unfortunately thinking these days
     
  14. Icehouse

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    For those asking for Dungy, has he shown any interest in coaching again? I can't see him coming here to compete with Indy.
     
  15. Hey Now!

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    Unquestionably; I'm at a loss to explain and have no interest in defending it. I think he's outsmarting himself and trying to fix what ain't broken. He needs to get out of his own way, assuming there's not some internal issue he's dealing with that we don't know about.
     
  16. Stack24

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    Sometimes I think the same thing. If there is something we don't know about behind the scenes.
     
  17. Nick

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    Happens all the time... and more often than not, the "outgoing" coach is looked upon with a higher degree of fondness (after the incoming coach has his initial success, then sees his team regress with "his" influence).

    Tony Dungy --> Jon Gruden

    Bill Parcells --> Wade Phillips

    Hell... JVG --> Adelman.

    The first case is the most extreme example. Gruden really did luck into an amazing situation, where Dungy had completely turned an awful franchise around (much like Kubiak has done here). That being said, Dungy got them to within one game of the Super Bowl... and still got fired.

    I'm pretty glad he got vindicated in Indy. I still think TB owes him a ring after Gruden used his opportunistic defense to win a Super Bowl.
     
  18. TheRealist137

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    I feel if we fire Kubiak and get Gruden or Cowher on here next season we can be super bowl contenders, not just Playoff teams.

    Just give those 2 one offseason of getting their players and reworking our defense combined with the probable improvement of Kareem and getting Demeco back and you will see a massive improvement, the offense will still be great.
     
  19. boomboom

    boomboom I GOT '99 PROBLEMS

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    Even the local sports honks here in Vegas think Kubiak needs to go. The station I usually listen to broadcasts the Chargers games...so they do quite a bit of San Diego talk...but they did hit on that the Chargers were lucky to win that game...and that Kubiak is definitely not the guy to get the Texans over the hump.

    So...it's nice to see outside media agreeing with the local sports fan sentiment.



    I surely would like to see Little Chucky roaming the sidelines next season!

    [​IMG]
     
  20. J.R.

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    Richard Justice commentary:



    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl...(chron.com+-+Top+Stories)&utm_content=Twitter
     

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