Morey didn't cause the disaster though Yao's injury did. The gamble that he would stay healthy might not have had high odds, but I think we owed it to Yao not to give up on him yet. I don't feel like that is still the case. Not saying I wouldn't like him on the cheap, but I wouldn't be upset if he was traded.
Yea but Melo and Billups don't know the offense and there will be an adjustment period for Amar'e and Anthony. Talent wise, they should be okay but chemistry is going to be an issue against a tough schedule. Remember how long it took Clyde/Dream and Voltron. If Milwaukee could get it's act together then it might be interesting but I don't see them being anywhere higher then an 8th seed with no center or bench.
Knicks did PWN big time. This means Deron Williams or Chris Paul also. They owned so much. Too bad with Bulls and Herat there and Lakers they still wont win Championships. At least they will have the chance too though. Crudd!!!! Even pretty much by Tuesday like I said earlier today. Well I hate saying anything else because people say your a know it all if you get something right too many times. Dangit!
I wouldn't be putting Paul or Williams on the Knicks just yet. With the new CBA comes a smaller salary cap and Amar'e/Melo will take up about 40 million of that cap in 2012. Also note, the Knicks have NOTHING to trade at this point so I would highly doubt either one of those two make it to NY.
Look at the bright side though if the rockets trade their pick to a top 4 team they can get something good in return...maybe a jeff green for our pick and nene and felton for battier,hill,budinger,brooks,jeffried Beast lineup: C-Nene/Chuck/Miller F-Scola/Patterson F-Green/Williams G-Martin/Lee G-Lowry/Felton/smith
Well they want to be there. So far its shown nothing any of us can do or the franchises to stop these superstars wishes now. NBA is run by inept WWE rigged league Stern. I dont think anything will be done to stop them from forming superteams in large markets like New York. In fact things look pretty grim the way these guys are running things now. For teams like the Rockets? We would need someone here to lure others from now on with this new trend.
The knicks-rockets trade was one of calculated risk. Unfortunately, it wasn't the boondoggle that it could have been, but the downside was virtually nill. This years and next years knicks picks could have been high, but they now appear to be average at best. Hill is not the player Morey thought he was, but his upside is high and he's on a good contract. My point is that in retrospect, it didn't turn out to be a great trade for Houston. In many ways, we were unlucky. But putting yourself in a position to get lucky is a wise thing to do.
Not about the LT, lets say the salary cap is 50 million and Melo/Amar'e take up 40 million of that, how will NY sign either one with only 10 million or so of capspace to sign them and the rest of the squad. They could do a Cleveland/Toronto type mistake and lose them for T/E but I think both NOLA and Utah learned from Denver. Like you said, it all depends on the cap and how low it is.
A. If the Rockets wanted to keep Amare, we'd have needed to pay him Joe Johnson money. Yeah, that's not risky at all. B. Dallas and Houston couldn't get anything done because Denver did not want to trade him in-Conference. Having Amare doesn't change Houston's location. But let's not let facts get in the way of making stuff up.
Fun to watch but honestly wouldnt win many games, and if they made the playoffs you could go ahead and pencil in a 1 and done...
It is what it is now. I cant change your minds and you guys dont want to hear it anyways. I am not here to be combative or confront people. I am just stating whats good for the franchise and nothing more. Its over now and nothing you said is the truth either. As much speculation as mine is filled with. Only problem is mine is filled with results towards backing my speculation.
If I'm lying, then it's very simple. Just point out where I lied. And I'll gracefully admit my mistake.
I didnt call you a liar. I said its speculation. Speculating that we wouldnt have ended up signing Amare if he came here and then Carmelo would be willing to come here or that Denver wouldnt trade him here instead. New York wouldnt be good right now or have Amare there if we had him and Carmelo wouldnt have made Denver trade him there if they arent good. Speculation??? Maybe on both parts from me and you. Only thing is like I said speculating already worked out for New York doing what we didnt do. So?? Thats the only truth out both of our speculating.
Umm... I never said we wouldn't have ended up with Amare. I said we'd have to pay him JJ money. NY gave him 5yr/$100 mil. The Rockets would've had to do better than that, given our market disadvantage. Hence, we'd have needed a 6th year. How is this speculation? This is factual, unless you have inside sources that said Amare would've given us some sort of discount. But let's suppose we give Amare that big ass contract. And NY in its haste decide to give Boozer max money(Chicago offered less than max). Or maybe they get Rudy Gay. Why would Melo choose to come to Houston over Dallas or NY? Dallas is better, has a bigger superstar, has a richer owner. While NY likely would be in the same position now. Why would Melo love Houston so much that he'd force a trade here? Sure, both of us are speculating. Except yours is based on nothing but pure make-belief and not based in reality.
I knew it wasn't going to be a high pick. I was laughing in the beginning of the season at people who didn't think the Knicks would be a playoff team. But I never expected us to have the worst record than them.
Although they will probably still make the playoffs (because the east is weak after the top 4), I don't think the Knicks will fare as well now as they had been. They gave up quite a bit, and I don't think Carmelo will make Amare better (or vice versa). They will just take turns in isolation on each possession. Carmelo is not a pick-and-roll guy, so they won't do that. I think they will be a good team in the future, but they need more pieces. I don't think they will fare as well post-trade as many people think.
LTF - That's not exactly how it works. The Stepien Rule (for an 80's Cavs owner) in the CBA states that a team can't make a trade that would deprive it from having a 1st Round pick in two consecutive drafts. In theory, a team could trade it's 1st Round pick in every draft. As long as it had one the following year. Do you see the small difference? The Stepien Rule does not look backwards only forward. Once a draft is history it is history and the 2 consecutive #1's is reset after every draft. Not applicable in the case of the Knicks Picks. But that's the essence of the rule.
The Knicks had what they needed to get their 2 superstars regardless, unless you think the trade would not have happened without Felton. The Knicks having 2 stars doesn't have much to do with our trade. They had the cap room to sign Amare regardless and they only got Carmelo because he said he would only go there. The deal would have happened regardless.
