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The Kiper 4.0 Mock ESPN Blunder Texans = JD+TB

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Mirri3000, Apr 17, 2014.

  1. Mirri3000

    Mirri3000 Member

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    For roughly 15 seconds, Mel's new mock was fully available, so I copied it, but I'll only post the Texans selections unless asked. Of course, he isn't predicting trades, but he has 3 QB's jumping Teddy Bridgewater in the draft, even though TB is number 2 on his big board. This leaves the Texans as selecting the top 2 rated players in the draft, both at places of need.

    Usually don't put stock in mocks, but I thought it was worthy. Enjoy!


    Mel Kiper 4.0

    1Jadeveon ClowneyCOLLEGE: South CarolinaClass: JrHT: 6-5WT: 266POS: DE
    Analysis: I'm certain the debate about which player to take still exists, and whether the pick could be moved. I still think this could be a quarterback. But I believe that while more than one "safe" pick exists in this draft, it's hard to play it safer in terms of upside than selecting a generational physical talent, a guy who has exceptional physical skills and the ability to bring immediate impact and create consistent matchup problems up front as teams deal with the reality of how to block both Clowney and J.J. Watt. The questions on Clowney still aren't enough to diminish the potential impact. He's the top prospect in a draft full of very good ones, and I think Houston will feel the same.

    33. Houston Texans | *Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
    Let me be clear: This is the top-rated quarterback on my Big Board, a player I have rated higher than Bortles, Manziel or Carr. (It's very close on the top three, however.) But my reading of the tea leaves in speaking with many evaluators around the league is that Bridgewater could drop if he slides past a couple of points early on. If I could project trades, I'd have someone taking him later in Round 1 having moved up. Obviously, he's a steal at this point.
     
  2. Medicine N Music

    Medicine N Music Contributing Member
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    If he slides anywhere past pick 15 or so, we should just try our best to trade up. 2nd + 3rd this year, maybe a 3rd next year.
     
  3. bigtexxx

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    again, BO'B doesn't want a skinny, dumb QB

    it's just not a fit, boys. Let it go
     
  4. Bogey

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    Actually I was thinking trade back on the second round pick for additional picks. If TB is there, I think the value would actually go up. We have too many holes to fill.

    Now if Manziel slides, my position does a 180, guess thats what being a fan is all about.
     
  5. TheRealist137

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    Weren't you just championing Kiper in the other thread for "doing this for decades", yet now you disagree with Kiper on the Texans picking up Teddy.

    bigtexxx, in your opinion, are you more knowledgeable than Mel Kiper regarding the draft?
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

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    You said Teddy would be good, just not good enough to be the #1 pick.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    We have too many holes to fill to waste that much on him. If we thought he was worth a 2nd and 3rd we'd waste our first on him. I think we take him if he's there, take someone else if he's not.
     
  8. Mirri3000

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    I tend to agree with Mel and Todd that Carr has leaped in front of Teddy as far as projections go. Arm strength is right under Brain strength as far as QB's are concerned.

    Carr just won't be a Texan, due to the whole city rioting if that happened.

    I'm not a great Bridgewater supporter, but if he slid into round two, for whatever reason, I think we select QB here anyway, and he is gonna be higher on BOB's board than Garrapolo, who I actually support.

    I'm fully against trading up in any situation before round 5, we have too many holes to fill.
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    indeed
     
  10. Furious Jam

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    I strongly feel that one of the 3 (Manziel, Bortles, Bridgewater) will drop low enough into the 1st round that we'll be able to trade up to get him.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    If they dropped that low, it would be best to see if they'd keep on dropping. The Texans need all of their high draft picks this year.
     
  12. Fulgore

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    I guess BOB likes smart lousy qbs (Fitzpatrick)
     
  13. Aruba77

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    so true. i'm getting the impression (more of a wild guess really) that BOB was being honest when he said there's not much separation between the QBs this year. If so, we don't have much incentive to trade up just because one of those flashy name guys starts dropping. I know it sounds crazy, but i could even see us trading back a few spots in the 2nd round, accumulate an additional pick, and still pick up the QB we want.
     
  14. DonnyMost

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    I believe this was it:


    Now texxx is trying to backpeddle by claiming her never said the Texans wouldn't take Teddy, just that they wouldn't take him #1 overall....

    When in reality, he's actually been running around saying that...


    So, in summation, you can take bigtexxx's opinion on Teddy Bridgewater, and flush it right down the crapper.
     
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    I absolutely think you could be correct. It would REALLY piss off Bridgewater fans if he was available at 2-1 and the Texans traded back with someone who wanted him though.
     
  16. Haymitch

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    That would be a good draft for the Texans! I hope it plays out like that.
     
  17. jayhow92

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    Having a Harvard degree makes him the best clipboard holder out there.
     
  18. bigtexxx

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    actually that doesn't prove your point
     
  19. Fulgore

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    Damn right. He can throw 20+ picks but his SAT score is the most important thing :grin:
     
  20. rezdawg

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    Tom Savage was invited to attend the NFL draft...pretty interesting. It means that there is a decent chance many expect him to go in the first round.
     

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