I think the Rockets wanted to keep Posey. The contract was just a few million too high. It would have put them in luxury tax land, without the foresight of the Utah deal.
You have a legitimate argument. I wouldn't call all three guys mediocre. I've only seen the last game and I was impressed with Jackson. I've wanted Piatkowski on the Rocks for awhile. I think you may like him when he's been in the rotation for awhile. AGriff is pretty much an unknown to me. I've heard there are some issues with his back, so we'll see. The other part about our personnel moves, especially contracts, is a valid beef. Why we felt the need to sign Norris for 6 years is a mystery. Why we signed Cato to such a huge contract based on some preseason play is a mystery. (yes, he's finally playing close to his contract... finally. we were ready to hang him by his toes not long ago) Why we did the Rice deal is a mystery. As far as the Rice to Utah deal goes, if we don't use the exception on a major deal... I'll be pissed. We have a long time yet to use it, so we'll see. I'm having a hard time grappling with the 1st rd. pick to Utah myself. I don't agree with all your thoughts, RIET, but I certainly see where you're coming from.
You claim you didn't read my post and then reference Dallas signing Travis Best. You are a lying sack of poo poo. Case Closed Rookie. Go suck up to Gater and leave me alone you freak.
RIET - First I'm Pollyanna 'cause I don't think replacing Posey over the next few years is very difficult and now someone who partially agrees with my opinion is a "suckup"? You know that efficiency rating used by the NBA...the one with the formula... (Points + Rebs + Blocks + Steals) - (FGA - FGM) - (FTA - FTM) - TO's) = ER How about a little small wager? I'll take JJAx and you take Posey on the Saturday Nov 1 game with the Grizz. Loser adds James Posey or Jim Jackson "is the steal of the summer signings." to their sig for 1 week following the game. Bet?
RIET, go up and read RagingFire's post. I didn't even notice I was quoting you. Similarly, I got to know that you are calling me a liar because someone else quoted you in their post. You couldn't even figure this out? Is your IQ 30? I see where your frustration comes from. I point out the flaws in your posts again and again. Instead of answering my post directly, you only resort to personal attacks. You know? The only way to avoided being humiliated by me again and again is to tight up your logic and think before you post. Otherwise, when people quote you, I am going to point out how messed up your mind is. Strike you out!
The Grizzlies should have cleared space to make a Kobe run. You just aren't going to be able to build a championship team around Pau Gasol and Mike Miller. Soft, soft, soft. Lots of Toni Kukoc potential on your roster. Scary. Adding James Posey means you have another wing player who can't hit a jumpshot to save his life. Sinking $24 million into that when you already have Shane Battier doesn't make much sense. The Rockets approach this off-season was intelligent. The Rockets identified a number of key weaknesses- outside shooting, veteran leadership, perimeter defense and coaching scheme and addressed them without breaking the bank, or losing any of the core players. Losing Rudy was the toughest pill to swallow, but losing Posey was hardly a big tragedy.
Pollyanna was actually a euphimism for homer suckup. I find it hilarious that you think everything the Rockets have done has been a good move. Myth: Getting rid of James Posey was a good move because he was too expensive. Reality: Im 99% sure if the money was close he would have taken less to remain here. He loved Houston. Posey really wanted to stay here. There was an article during the offseason stating the Rockets only offered him $2.5 million and when he passed, they chose Piatkowski instead. Was he worth $5 million? Probably not but I don't think we would've had to pay him that. Unfortunately, the money difference was too much. Myth: Eric Piatkowski and Adrian Griffin were good pickups and good bargains Reality: They are decent pickups but neither were bargains and neither addressed the biggest need- backup PG. Myth: Not signing James Posey allowed us to sign Jim Jackson Reality: We couldve signed Jim Jackson regardless. They were not mutually exclusive. This team is not 12 players deep. So instead of John Amaechi who will play 0 minutes or Adrian Griffin who is worthless, Jim Jackson couldve taken their roster spots and contributed. He is more of a pure SG than a SF. Myth: Jim Jackson was a bargain at $2.4 million. Reality: Last year at this time, Jim Jackson was sitting at home begging for a job before the Kings gave him the veteran's league minimum. A year later, he's now worth a 3 year contract at a substantial raise because as we all know, NBA players don;t reach their prime until 36. Myth: Trading Glen Rice was a good thing because we got a $6 (or $7 - Im not the capology expert that you are) million trade exception Reality: The Rockets have consistently overpaid for mediocre talent. So to expect them to sign a $6 million player for $6 million would be asking too much. Instead, we will overpay a $4 million dollar player and give him a significantly higher salary than what he's worth. It's their Modus Operandi Myth: Giving up a 1st round draft choice is good because we won;t have a guaranteed contract. Reality: That's stupid. We inherited John Amaechi's contract which is on par if not higher than any player taken at that spot. Instead of getting a potential good player, we get a worthless slug who wont play at all. I see. It's a much better alternative. Myth: Giving up a first round draft choice is not losing much because we would be picking between 14-17 Reality: I have shown you in a previous thread that between 1999-2001, half the teams in the NBA have gotten at least 1 good quality, borderline all star player during that time. Included on that list were Ron Artest, Tony Parker, Andrei Kirilenko, Zach Randolph, Ginobili, Desmond Mason, Jamaal Magloire , etc etc, etc...almost all of whom would play a major role if they were on this team. Myth: Trading Cat, Eddie, and Nachbar for Tony Battie and Eric Williams is a good move. Reality: Put down the crack pipe. Im sorry if I seem harsh because frankly calling you a suckup is totally out of line, rude, and just plain impolite and unnecessary. However, that's just my opinion. If you feel the need to insult me, I understand 100%. As far as Cannonner2002. He knows nothing about basketball and just cuts and pastes other people's material. He finds it ridiculous that a Travis Best with his playoff experince replacing Moochie wouldve been more important on this team than Adrian Griffin who is basically worthless. He is also a liar. Congratulations, you are now his favorite hero. I have no misgivings about calling him a poophead because he is.
What makes you think he would go to memphis? I mean he b****ed about not going to Charlotte and demanded a trade. He needs the lime light and is not going to leave LA unless it's for something like New York, Miami, somewhere that has stars and he can get a lot of exposure. Unless for some miracle he changed and wants to play in the middle of no where to get less hype which i doubt.
thas why GM's get paid... to do such deals, eventhough they seem ****ty at first they do come out pretty well inthe end. EX: cato im glad they didnt sign Posey, coz who knows he coulda ended up being another MOT, and the GM woulda have to hear about it for 3-4 years
Of course, Memphis would not be the obvious favorite in the Kobe sweepstakes, except for the close relationship he has with their GM Jerry West. It's not as crazy an idea as you might think. Maybe Kobe doesn't want so much exposure these days, either. Unless there is a sign-and-trade, I think Kobe will be a Clipper next season if he's not in an orange jumpsuit. As for this thread, I don't understand, Riet, why you resorted to personal attacks. It seems silly to me for anybody to get so hot and bothered about Rockets personnel moves...picking up Jackson, Pike and Griffin in exchange for Posey and Rice is hardly some kind of cause of moral outrage. Minor basketball stuff, dude. Deep, cleansing breaths .
Actually I was pretty calm when I was typing these poophead remarks. Drinking green tea and watching baskteball. Im sorry but some people are poophead liars and some are suckups. That's life. Who doesn't suckup at work or do these things to ingratiate themselves socially or professionally. I feel bad about Gater because he seems like a good fellow but he's been fairly consistent with his Rockets can do know wrong type analysis. As far as Cannonner, just look at the Top sticky thread where he thinks ClutchCity.Net is an officially Rockets sponsored site and demands the server to be upgraded. Yes he has apologized profusely but the fact he even started that thread speaks volumes. Read his stuff. It's just a compilation of other people's material.
RIET, you are off my ignore list, reason being you attacking me personably on my back. I am going to make you look stupid.
dude, totally unreadable. learn how to kill the bold so that your responses can be seen. btw...on a personal note...and dont take offense.... I dont agree with RIET's style of posts....but getting into a pissing contest will not do anyone any good. Certainly not you. Posting to discuss is fine... Posting to attempt to show someone else up just makes you look stupid. and like him or not...RIEt's bball knowledge far eclipses yours...give it up now before you look like more of a fool. sometimes you just gotta say what the f*ck and move on...
A fool? Whatever. I take nobody as the judge. RIET is messed up with his logic, that is what I pointed out. If you don't see that, your logic is questionable too.
How is that related to this discussion? There is no declaration "this site has no tie to Rockets organization" on the front page. I figured that out later and visited the tipjar same night. Now that becomes something you use to attack me, just show how low you are. The last claim you made is simply baseless. Have you read every of my around 500 posts?
his logic is distorted by whatever has crawled up his craw with regards to the Rockets...it is a shame to see a Rockets fan so twisted by hate for the team he professes to love...but no one can deny that is the case... if you want to argue logic, go for it, far be it for me to attempt to stop you.. I took your post as meaning that you were going to try to make him look foolish on bball issues, something you have no hope of doing.. but if you want to go for logic bashing... go for it.
