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The Jalen Green Experience is Coming

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mathloom, Nov 9, 2021.

  1. DatRocketFan

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    Getting a lottery pick doesn't equal guarantee lebron that's y lottery are a crap shoot.

    B4 u get your panties in a bunch wondering what's the point of tanking then, it's to increase your odds getting the earliest pick of the bunch to grab a superstar.

    Folks on here btching about how bad green just lack patience.

    If he isn't the one, we can still draft in the upcoming ones. Hence the point of a rebuild, crying about green isn't good as Mobley ain't gonna change how we drafted.
     
  2. intergalactic

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    Jabari Parker tore his acl twice in his first 3 years in the league. That's some bad luck.
     
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    You are right, crying about it won’t change things in the past. And fans just taking it in the ass without voicing their displeasure about management/ownership decisions not driven by basketball reasons but rather financial/marketing will ensure that things won’t change in the future, as well.
     
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    We have all seen this list, it’s dumb luck that there’s more busts here than for the #3 pick. No team is dumb enough to hope for the #3 pick instead of the #2 pick, unless that team is dumb enough to pick Green over Mobley, in that case maybe #3 would have been better off.
     
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  5. DatRocketFan

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    Folks been crying all the time. It changes nothing, u think tilman gives a fk about our feeling?

    If your intention of posting on here btching about green 24/7 is to convince upper management to change or do better tough luck.

    If that was all that took, the kings would have been competent by now.

    Folks get on here to rant, praise or find camaraderie in other Rocket fans. At least that's how I view it.
     
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  6. daywalker02

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    Rooting for someone and admitting that the GM asset piling on SGs such as KPJ, Josh Christopher, Green, Brooks, Mathews, Nwaba was not necessary are 2 completely different matters.

    Then there is Ego.

    It was a risk stockpiling like that without getting rid of 2 or 3 of them.
     
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  7. kingkingston

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    it is only his rookie season..........................the world is not ending
     
  8. kingkingston

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    TMac didn't play nice with others. He had a most unstoppable force at centre and still couldn't get past the first round because he didn't know how to play with Yao
     
  9. daywalker02

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    Lol taking Green and then following up with Theis or Thesis, playing KPJ alongside him as PG, those are questionable moves that would have cost GMs their job.

    If you want to develop, why take Theis, why not go for a young Center and get rid of some of the guards instead?
     
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    That was hardly the issue, Rafer Alston did not do the entry pass well, David Wesley others too, you name them.

    Yao and Mac were injured half of their Rocket careers, there was no going back.

    Steve Francis was worse than Tmac by far so there was not much of a choice.

    Other than Grant Hill, Kobe, Tracy was the best trade option back then, 24 years old at that.
     
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  11. kingkingston

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    It was a big issue, if those two play well together, they would be near the top seed. It was the same when Francis played with Yao, Francis just wanted to look after himself and Mobley. In 04-05 Yao and T Mac played 78+ games, no excuses that season together. They played enough games to do something. Yao should have had more of the ball. Offensively he could be as dominant as Shaq if he was just given the chance
     
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    Francis wasn't going to deliver any upsets.

    While you say it is the same, it was not.

    Tmac brought excitement like Kawhi to the Raptors while he wasn't Kawhi obviously but fans forgot easily.

    The franchise was tired of Francis dribbling down the shotclock like Harden but without any Harden talent.

    Tmac failures have lot to do with himself as well but as you said, 10 out of 10 GMs would do that trade.
     
  13. LikeMike

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    So, a lot of you guys watch a lot more NBA than me and know a lot more - so here is my question: Green currently holds the Rockets rookie record for made threes. He had a span of 10 games or so shooting over 40% from three if I remember correctly. In the G-League he shot .365 from three. Currently on the season as a whole he shoots .29. Are young guys just this streaky and he will always have his hot and cold streaks? Or is this about him working on his shot technique and that takes time? Perhaps conditioning? Mental? Basically: do we have a valid reason to expect him to get at least to 35-36% on three?

    I also see him taking step back threes with defenders in his face. I don‘t really understand, why coaching doesn‘t tell him: take only open threes. If you go to create your own shot, drive to the rim. Learn a floater, learn to finish through traffic, learn to draw fouls, learn to pass the ball to your open teammate when the help defender comes. He seems to be grasping the game as a whole better, but he seems to stagnate at the thing he was supposed to be really good at and thats scoring.
     
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    you are wasting your breath. Goh (green only haters) will never acknowledge that he is a 20 year old rookie that is an elite athlete and is struggling to excel in his rookie season, like Kobe, Harden and countless other superstars. I wasn’t in favor of the Green pick, but to write this kid off in half a season is insanely stupid and immature. Bbbbbbut Mobley is better wah, wah wah. There have been lots of drafts that have produced more than one all-star and a few that have produced more than one superstar.
     
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  15. Believe It!

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    AND they're all still here. 6 hours to go.

    :eek:
     
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    It's impossible to say really.

    There's players who came in as streaky shooters that stay streaky shooters, there's those who come in as streaky shooters that eventually learn how to shoot. We'll just have to wait and see if he stays a Corey Brewer type or if he improves.

    There's no question that his rookie season is a massive disappointment given the laughably ridiculous hype behind this kid, but he's still got time to turn things around and one day be as good as his fans thought he'd be day one.
     
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    His form and mechanics is not consistent. We literally see it change over the season which is not something you really want. That's something he needs to drill down in the off season, because he doesn't really know anymore how he's suppose to shoot. It used to come with low release point and high arc, and then now it has a higher release point and less arc. Wonder what it will look like next month
     
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    He's also added some muscle mass as the season has progressed. All those factors mean he needs an entire off-season to work on a consistent release with his new mass and technique. I don't expect for him to get more consistent with his shooting during the reg season.

    It seems like the high release earlier in the season allowed him to have random really great shooting nights that you don't see with him lately.
     
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    This is true but the majority of #2 picks are disappointments and busts, it's just the nature of the draft.

    Saying it out loud does not change anything, that's why the Kings and the Magic are still bad.
     
  20. MrButtocks

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    Rookies can struggle with consistency and hitting shots at a good percentage. They're facing far better defenders in the NBA than they've ever faced before. Green, Cunningham, and Suggs are all shooting under 40% from the field but will clearly improve on that. At least, I hope Green improves because if he keeps shooting 38 FG% he simply does not belong in the NBA. We just need to hope that he can build on the flashes he's shown.
     
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