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The Jalen Green Experience is Coming

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mathloom, Nov 9, 2021.

  1. NewAge

    NewAge Member

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    yes, correct.
    That’s why @Mathloom is my favorite Green-ie - an honest man with integrity.
    Compare to that sleazebag @Verbal Christ, who tried to gaslight the board that Green was considered "not ready for NBA" by copy-pasting scouting reports from high school when Green was 17, and presenting them as ‘pre-draft". disgusting!

    Truth is the truth.
    Green was considered the most ready, consensus ROY in all predictions. Consensus was wrong. It is what it is, you take it from there.
     
  2. Bo6

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    he actually played good defense tonight. some glimpses of maybe potential at that end?

    honestly i don't know why we switch so much. most of our guys do much better man-to-man. i'd stick green on PGs every night. Tate and Gordon are the only players that really can switch effectively right now.
     
  3. Tuckankhamun

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    I’d exaggerate and make some joke about how Green is the combination of Brewer, Maker, and Tyrus Thomas, but I’ve seen serious arguments as to why he’s already a Darko level bust.

    Truth is stranger than fiction.
     
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  4. NewAge

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    is that a jab at me? Because if it is, that’s a misrepresentation. I think Darko-level bust is on the table, cannot be discounted as a probability in the future. But I am not big on predictions and explicitly said so. What I can say now is that probabilstically the Darko probability is non-zero, you’ll have to be completely oblivious to disregard it outright.
     
  5. BallaDoc

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    i only caught the first half so far and I half agree with you.

    to me he is an above average POA defender. He takes good angles to get around screens. Refuses to die on a screen and chases behind his defender to contest. I saw him almost blow up 2 DHOs as well. He’s engaged at the POA. The couple times he played simons straight up he stayed in front and made him take difficult shots.

    his off ball defense is bad. This is something experience should change but it’s bad. He’s taking a half second to rotate a little late. He gets beat way too predictably on back cuts. Three plays on simons and Powell where he just turns his head for too long and the other guys already gone.

    offensively I didn’t hate his game. Shots not falling is whatever. He took them in the flow of the offense except one. My main issue with his offense is it seems like he’s till thinking through his actions instead of just attacking. When he dribbled at the top of the key or tries to use a screen he dribbled way too much and wastes clock. When he makes his mind up to attack or hit a close out that’s when he’s the best. He’ll eventually get to the point where he’s just playing instead of thinking and he’ll be ok I think. One last thing I noted. Our offense particularly our starting 5 has horrid spacing and off ball movement. I think part of it is 5 out with wood refusing to screen and no one respecting Tate. Too often we have a semi separated ball handler with no options to drive or pass and no one cutting to make an easy play. We also rotate the ball way too slowly. Sometimes hitting the corner by the time the defense has recovered.
     
  6. Dobbizzle

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    Yeah some people are actually morons. Darko level busts don't become one of the youngest players to have a 30 PT game. They also don't break team rookie records. Idiots reaching so hard their shoulders about to dislocate.
     
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    This lines up with what I'm seeing. Another big issue is how often we leave him out on an island expecting him to be effective in isolation. It doesn't work. When he gets good picks he's way more effective at both attacking and assisting. The tape shows he's way better when we actually run stuff for him, Silas is a moron for having Green-isos as a strategy, some "offensive genius" that guy is...
     
  8. J.R.

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    It’s lit bro @RasaqBoi
    Not just “3 or 4” games but whatever bro!

    Last 5: 28.5 minutes | 26.2 FG% | 17.9 3PT% (5.6 attempts) | 85.7 FT% (2.8 attempts) | 9.8 points | 4 rebounds | 2.6 assists
    Last 10: 28.6 minutes | 30.9 FG% | 18.5 3PT% (5.4 attempts) | 82.8 FT% (2.9 attempts) | 11 points | 4 rebounds | 2.4 assists
    Last 16(return from injury): 29.1 minutes | 36.4 FG% | 30.3 3PT% (6.2 attempts) | 84.1 FT% (3.9 attempts) | 14.6 points | 3.5 rebounds | 2.1 assists
    First 18: 30.8 minutes | 38.2 FG% | 27.8 3PT% (6.4 attempts) | 80.7 FT% (3.2 attempts) | 14 points | 3.1 rebounds | 2.3 assists
    Season: 34 games | 30 minutes | 37.3 FG% | 29 3PT% (6.3 attempts) | 82.5 FT% (3.5 attempts) | 14.3 points | 3.3 rebounds | 2.2 assists

     
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    He's talking in a row. 5 games ago he put up 15 on 60/33/100 splits.
     
  10. Salvy

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    Great, we drafted someone who is just learning to play basketball to a professional basketball team....
     
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    Points 2,813 (6.0 ppg)
    Rebounds 1,971 (4.2 rpg)
    BLOCKS 613 (1.3 bpg)

    Darko career over the span of 9ish years.

    He is considered a massive bust bc of his draft position, and his draft mates Melo, wade and lebron.
    And
    His stats as a big man is utter garbage.


    Green is currently at 485 points as a rookie.
    He maybe not as ready as advertised, but to suggest he has darko level bust potential halfway into his rookie season is just bias as fk.

    I predict he will greatly improved as we get a big man that actually wants to play that role and he strive to b better offseason. Wood needs to b gone like yesterday.
     
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    Yeah, an athlete learning to play basketball (instead of a basketball player who is an athlete)

    If the Rockets were drafting for the dunk contest, they nailed their draft! ;)
    If the Rockets were drafting for 5-on-5 team NBA basketball, well…let’s just say it’s a work in progress.
     
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    Verbal Christ is pretty Heathen for someone self named Christ.

    He sure is not as forgiving as a good Christian would be.
     
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    Is he looking like a darko level bust 2 u also?
     
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    Correct.

    I have no expectations of Jalen. He's along for the ride like the rest of us. Once again, these are 19 year old kids that we're expecting them to be superstars as soon as they hit the NBA. Very rare that happens.

    I believe in Rafa. Soon, we'll get more younger kids high up in the draft that'll gel with Jalen, KPJ, Sengun, etc. that'll get this team into the playoffs and stay there consistently for a long time.

    It sucks seeing this right now, but we've seen the 2011-2014 Astros go through the same growing pains. Patience, grasshoppers.
     
  16. NewAge

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    @J.R. my advice is not to take the bait, this guy is scum and a troll;
    manipulative misrepresentation of other people’s posts to build feeble straw men that he can dunk on for his unhealthy self-gratification…
     
  17. DatRocketFan

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    Lol people might dislike green and are disappointed with his production when compared to mobley. (Understandable)

    But no one in their right mind looks at green at this stage of his career and say yea he might end up being a bust as bad as darko.

    And u call me a troll. Laughable
     
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  18. NewAge

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    yes, because nobody said that. What people are saying is that if he "doesn’t improve from here" he’ll be a Darko-level bust.
    You’re a troll because you’re misrepresenting other people’s posts to start sht.
     
  19. DatRocketFan

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    Bro u don't know what darko level bust mean to b throwing that sht around especially to a rookie not even done with his first season and u are the only poster so far I seen to think green "might be darko level bust" if he doesn't improve.
     
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  20. Salvy

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    I totally agree, he is an insane athlete.... Before draft night it was believed he had a good shot, crazy athleticism and instant offense. He was suppose to be this incredible scorer... I was on board because we needed a superstar and he was the only one I thought had the talent to be one, we could worry about the defense later. But as the season goes on he has all the athleticism minus the basketball skills that he is just working on acquiring.

    I just want Green to be an all star, I'm not willing to accept he is bust. That's how bad we need a franchise player...
     

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