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The Jacoby Jones Experiment

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by DonnyMost, Oct 9, 2011.

  1. ubigred

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    LOL he does act like he is a superstar on the night club scene.

    Was there even enough money to sign Braylon Edwards instead of Jacoby Jones?

    He has been a bum for 3 years now. He was in a contract year last year and played as if he was a rookie.
     
  2. Remix

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    Yep on the last play when Schaub scrambled out left Jacoby was going the opposite direction with the defender right behind him giving Schaub no where to throw the ball. Jacoby should of went to the back corner or broke left when he had the defender chasing him to at least create some separation. Dude has no awareness and has no business being the primary target.
     
  3. ipaman

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    how far would a floyd or toon fall?

    garcon was a 6th rounder, so they do exist.
     
  4. ascaptjack

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    Are their any FA WR's right now that are available?
     
  5. pgabriel

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    what's up with the kid on the practice squad who looked great in preseason
     
  6. ascaptjack

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    I much rather have Edwards than Jones. Please, I'd take a washed up has been Moss or a cancer Owens than Janobody Jones.
     
  7. Remix

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    Lestar Jean? Placed on IR.
     
  8. charlieaustin

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    It looked like he started to block for a second thinking Schaub was going to run but he wasn't in position because he was behind the defender. If he would have gone to the back corner of the end zone he would have had position on the defender and if Schaub could have lobbed it over the defender, which he tried to do but left it way short, the play would have had a better chance. Even a jump ball to Jacoby would have been better than what happened.

    The problem I have with JJ is his routes. He doesn't cut hard enough and ends up rounding his cut instead of a straight line. This allows the defender to jump the route and get in position. AJ is the opposite, he almost always has position on the defender. I'm not comparing JJ to the best receiver in the NFL though. I'm just using AJ as an example. There was one good example of this during the game yesterday on a deep out that looked like a bad throw but it was actually JJ with a rounded cut that left him short on the route.

    JJ is definitely not a "go to" receiver and he has had enough time to get better. I prefer to be an optimist and I don't like to jump on a team or players after a loss but he has had plenty of time and chances to get better. I'll take the receiver that can be consistent but limited to the receiver that shows flashes of being really good with a bunch sub par plays.
     
  9. ascaptjack

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    What ever happened to that one dude from the preseason?

    His name was Devard Darling, he can't be any worse than Jacoby.
     
  10. RV6

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    Had not seen a replay until today. Initially i thought the same, short throw that should have been lobbed to Jacoby and JJ didnt have good spacing anyway...however, it appears Schaub thought JJ was going to keep going parallel to the goal line. That's why he gave it a short flip, but instead JJ cut back and the defender stepped up. Just bad chemistry for the most part, but better awareness may have helped JJ realize he was open if he just kept going straight across.
     
  11. DieHard Rocket

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    Football Outsiders named Jacoby Jones least valuable WR/Te for Week 5.

     
  12. Cohete Rojo

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    His punt returning has been off since Andre Davis was concussed and filled in for him at #3 WR. Yeah, I get it, he did great against the Colts and Miami, whoopty-doo. Two winless teams. I don't get why he catches the punt, stands still for a second and then starts running. And when he does run he usually runs sideways for no gain before being tackled after a 5 yard gain.
     
  13. emjohn

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    What it reminds me of is the JVG-built Rockets team, where the supporting cast around Yao and McGrady were so dependent on a star creating for them that every time Yao and McGrady were in street clothes, we were putting up scores in the 60s and 70s.

    The offense is very predicated upon AJ drawing a safety and corner deep, opening up Walter and Daniels underneath and leaving Foster wide open out of the backfield. Without Andre, opposing secondaries have a field day. This was apparent last year with Johnson dragging around on a bad ankle.

    Jacoby is a failure that they keep hoping will emerge as a legit #2. He's a mediocre #3. It was being brought up last April....but it's probably time to draft a partner for AJ in the 2nd rd....or even the first if no good defensive options fall to us.
     
  14. charlieaustin

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    Just watched it again and I see what you mean. It looks like when Schaub committed to throw JJ was in front of the defender and at that exact time JJ turned to go back which explains the in between throw. I agree with chemistry being an issue. In hindsight Schaub should have thrown it away into the ground and lived for another play but he couldn't tell how much (if any) time was left.
     
  15. DonkeyMagic

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    i wish more people realized this happened. A WR can't show one thing then all of a sudden abandon it, especially in that scenario...there just isnt time. JJ should have kept the defender at his back and came toward schaub, not away.

    But I agree, schaub should have just thrown it in the ground however, since he did scramble, i'm not sure if he thought he had enough time...and i don't know if he would have either.
     
  16. DonnyMost

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    Once Matt was a couple steps outside of the hash marks, there was pretty much no time left to throw it away... he was locked into it. Which was his first mistake. Make one, MAYBE two reads, if it's not there, chuck it and duck.
     
  17. charlieaustin

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    His legs are so long it's difficult for him to make good cuts. You see this in his routes. Once he gets going he has good speed as long as he doesn't have to all of a sudden change direction.
     
  18. ima_drummer2k

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    Most offenses are built around their best player. And most offenses are going to suffer if the best player misses a couple of games.

    That being said, I agree with everything negative being said about Jacoby Jones. Where would he be right now if the Texans hadn't made the bone-headed decision to re-sign him?

    We finally gave up on the Antwaun Molden experiment this year. Why couldn't we have done the same thing with JJ?
     
  19. DonnyMost

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    Anybody have an update on Bryant Johnson?

    If we're going to have a shred of hope this week, we need him.

    Ed Reed eats turds like Jacoby for breakfast.
     
  20. No Worries

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    JJ actually played well as WR1 at the end of last year, when AJ was hurt yet again.

    I am not JJ's biggest fan (and feel that the Texans should draft a WR with their next year's first round pick). JJ's production in the last game was bad, but some of the fault has got to be given to the OL not giving Schaub the protection he needed. Most of the balls thrown JJ's way were just not catchable by mere mortals like JJ*.

    * AJ makes some of those plays.
     

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