The IRS Targets Conservatives

The browser I'm on at work will not display the link, but this from the US Senate's own site. I'll try to find the link later.


Impeachment

If a federal official commits a crime or otherwise acts improperly, the House of Representatives may impeach—formally charge—that official. If the official subsequently is convicted in a Senate impeachment trial, he is removed from office.

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So it would appear that impechment is simply the act of charging. Conviction results in removal from office. The trial phase is somewhere in-between.

 

It would have required a house vote for that "charge" to be official.

 

No, the charge was official. What you are talking about is called conviction which carries an immediate expulsion from the office held.

 

This exchange is almost as entertaining as giddy ceaselessly arguing the definition of an apology a couple of years back...

 

This is clearer. An apology is more nuanced but it never should be bitter and blunt. When my kids do that, I make them do it over in the proper spirit.

 

No that's not what I'm talking about. What you are talking about is committee voting on it, which is what happened vs. the whole house voting on it, which is not what happened.

Had the House voted on it, it would have been able to go to the conviction phase. That never happened. Nixon resigned. He wasn't impeached despite a vote from one committee in congress.

This is what happened.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/watergate/articles/072874-1.htm

There was no single article approved by a majority of the House. Sorry giddy, you are misinformed.

 

It's crazy to me that this is getting debated.

Impeachment works the same way as anything else that originates in a House committee. The committee approves it to be sent to the floor, but it is not official until the House at large votes to approve it.

 

According to the US Senate's website impeachment is just leveling formal charges; it talks about impeachment (charges) and impeachment trial (determination of guilt):

"If a federal official commits a crime or otherwise acts improperly, the House of Representatives may impeach—formally charge—that official. If the official subsequently is convicted in a Senate impeachment trial, he is removed from office."

 

Yes, but the House never formally charged. They have to vote to do that, and they didn't. The Judiciary Committee voted to formally charge and then it went to the House floor. They never actually voted to adopt the impeachment articles however because Nixon resigned.

Edit: You cannot be formally charged by a COMMITTEE. Issa couldn't get his committee to impeach the president without the House at large voting on it.

 

All that you've quoted is correct. Because the House never formally charged the president, he was never impeached.

I will repeat this because you seem to have a hard time understanding what actually happened.

The House NEVER formally charged Nixon. He was not impeached.

The House judiciary committee voted to impeach and move that movement to the House for a vote. It never happened because Nixon resigned.

So in the end NIXON WAS NEVER IMPEACHED.

 

Try this link:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=was+nixon+impeached?

 

Okay, I'll stick with "was being impeached" because that was the track they were on. It's kind of like that tricky question about when life begins...

 

That's fine. If Nixon hadn't resigned, there is little doubt he would have been impeached. As long as we understand that it hadn't happened yet.

 

Poor Issa, we're going to have to start calling him Ken Staar. And no, this isn't an Onion piece.



Darrell Issa Refuses To Release ‘Evidence’ That Obama Conspired With IRS To Target Tea Party

Shorter version: "I got nothin"

 

The IRS Targets Conservatives
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Lol, GOOD.

 

And if the next administration is Republican and the IRS targets liberals and liberal groups, will you still say "GOOD"?

 

This is really the question. It isn't necessarily that the IRS targeted conservative groups. It is that the IRS targeted groups politically at all. If condoned, it can happen to any group depending on the ideology in charge at the time.

Forget about the result, the process itself should be neutral.