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The Iraqi threat is imminent???

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by No Worries, Jan 29, 2003.

  1. ROCKSS

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    How??? Do you believe that you have more information on this problem then the goverment. If you do please speak up and let us know so we can decide if the comments were disingenous or not.
     
  2. giddyup

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    This is exactly what cracks me up: people here (and elsewhere) who think they know as much as our most highly placed officials who are briefed at least daily from expert sources all around the globe. Well, sorry, but the Internet cannot keep up with that!
     
  3. No Worries

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    I am saying that I believe Mohamed ElBaradei, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, when he said said his inspectors had found no evidence that Iraq had resumed the nuclear program.

    Bush after the midterm electios has said that the US does not have any evidence that Iraq has a nuclear capability. Was he recanting or telling another lie? You make the call.
     
  4. MadMax

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    just for the record..it was powell who made this statement yesterday...so it's powell who is the liar, right? he also is a commander of a squadron of black helicopter pilots, too! look out!!!

    the guy said he found no evidence....the administration is saying they have intelligence to the contrary...why don't you wait and see what's presented before calling people liars?
     
  5. No Worries

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    Then that contradicts what Bush said recently about Iraq's nuclear capability. Or are you switching topics and referencing biological and chemical WMD?
     
  6. Buck Turgidson

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    The IAEA has been wrong, dead wrong, before regarding the Iraqi nuclear program. Here's an excerpt from an interview with Ken Pollack, author of The Threatening Storm: The Case for Invading Iraq. "Pollack is currently a Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution and he served as a high-level government official in various capacities over the course of the 1990s, dealing with Iraq specifically and the Middle East generally."

    I will say flat out [that] I was under the same impression: that we had a very good grip on their nuclear program and there really wasn't much of a nuclear program well into the 1990s. I was constantly being assured that by the IAEA and by the intelligence community. And then all of a sudden we had a slew of defectors come out in the mid- and late 1990s and what they told us was that everything that we had thought was wrong. You know Khidhir Hamza is the only one who's gone public. So he's the only one I can really talk about. But in 1994 we really thought the IAEA had eradicated their nuclear program. And the IAEA really thought that they'd eradicated their nuclear program. And they were telling us they'd eradicated their nuclear program. And Khidhir Hamza comes out and says 'No, the nuclear program in 1994 was bigger than it had ever been before.'...

    It's just been my experience that every time the IAEA says 'We've got this thing under control. We know exactly what they have' we find out later that they absolutely didn't. Again, one of the things that has been most important to me is talking to the inspectors., the inspectors who were responsible for this program during the 1990s. Every one of which I've spoken to believes that the Iraqis somewhere have a clandestine centrifuge program. And that's very meaningful to me because the experts, the guys who are in there doing it themselves, they also believe that the Iraqis are still pursuing this.


    You can read Part I of the interview in its entirety here:
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/jan0304.html#0129031156pm
     
  7. No Worries

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    Pollack could be right, but the above article bases its facts on information from defectors, which have not traditionally been a 100% accurate source.

    Something to consider is that the US had this defector intell by the beginning of Operation Desert Fox. One would think that the US military would have targeted and destroyed as much of the Iraqi WMD capability as they could at that time.
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Defectors, as well as former inspectors.

    The crux of the matter is that inspections cannot conceivably disarm a nation-state that does not want to disarm. It's quite evident that the Iraqi regime has no intention of giving up its bio/chem weapons programs, why should we assume that it would give up its nuclear program, one of the centerpieces of Baathist foreign policy?
     

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