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The Imus Drama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amel, Apr 10, 2007.

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  1. DonkeyMagic

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    they were probably jewish :D

    damn, does that make me a racist?
     
  2. gifford1967

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    Again Donkey breaks out his "somebody somewhere did something similar, so we cant hold anyone accountable defense."

    It works for defending Bush and Imus and anyone anywhere who has ever done anything wrong.

    Since you don't think Imus should be punished for calling this group of black girls "nappy-headed hos" and you want to be consistent "everywhere", then you must think if a teacher calls some black girls in his class "nappy-headed hos" he shouldn't be punished. After all you want "consistent" "everywhere".
     
  3. DonkeyMagic

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    im not defending imus. i really dont care that he's off the air...i think he blew anyways.

    you just dont get it do you? i really dont think its that hard of a concept but maybe its just me. i just think the reaction is exaggerated given all that happens. there are bigger fish to fry than trying to stand up for a team that has a bunch of unattractive and rough looking women.

    what i find odd is that if he said, man that team is made of of some disgusting creatures (which i find more offensive)...i dont know if there would be such an out cry.
     
  4. Deckard

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    Seriously, as a native Texan, with roots that go back to the Republic, I have found it offensive for decades that George Junior has drapped himself in the state flag, and uncorks this "drawl" that he uses when it pleases him to. The man I admire far more (in comparison) is his father, who never pretended to be something he is not. Who ran for office as a fellow from the Northeast that had come to Texas to make his way, and had come to love the state. His son has been a poser forever.



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  5. DonkeyMagic

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    but didnt he really grow up in texas..midland at that. As a fellow west texan i can say that you are quickly sucked into that 'mindset'. My dad moved out there from mississippi in the 60's and he's got the country thing down pretty well.
     
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    I guess it's how you define "grow up," but I usually think of it as the Jr High-HS years when you start figuring out the world outside your home and neighborhood and when you're old enough to have the freedom to hang with your friends without parental supervision. The bulk of these years Bush spent in a private Houston school or a private school in Massachusetts.
     
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    (from his yearbook)

    GEORGE WALKER BUSH. Born July 6, 1946, in New Haven, Connecticut, son of George H.W. Bush (Class of '48) and Barbara Pierce Bush. Prepared at Phillips Academy-Andover, Andover, Massachusetts. Entered Yale, September, 1964. History Major. Resident Member: Davenport (Social Council, 1964-68; Football, 1964-68, Captain, 1967-68; Baseball, 1965-68); Delta Kappa Epsilon, President, 1966-67; Skull and Bones; Inter- Council, 1966-67; Freshman Baseball, 1965; Rugby Club, 1966-68. Roommates: R.J. Dieter, C. Johnson, III, C. Johnson, Jr. Address: Apt. 8, 5000 Longmont Drive, Houston, Texas 77027.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_of_George_W._Bush

    Bush attended San Jacinto Junior High School in Midland, Texas, for seventh grade. He later moved to the Kinkaid School in Piney Point Village, Texas for two years. Afterward, like his father, Bush attended Phillips Academy (September 1961–June 1964) and later Yale University (September 1964–May 1968). At Yale, he joined Delta Kappa Epsilon, of which he was president from October 1965 until graduation, and the Skull and Bones secret society; Bush's father George H. W. Bush (1948) and grandfather Prescott S. Bush (1917) were also members of Skull and Bones. Bush was also in the Yale First XV rugby union team in 1968.[1] He was a C student, scoring 77% (with no As and one D, in astronomy) with a grade point average of 2.35 out of a possible 4.00. Bush has joked that he was known more for his social life than for his grades.[2] He received a Bachelor of Arts degree in history in 1968.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_of_George_W._Bush



    Best I can tell, Bush spent one year at a junior high in Midland, 7th grade. He spent 2 years at Kinkaid, an exclusive private school in Houston (my cousin spent a year there... loved it... could get steak for lunch), and then went to Phillips Academy in Andover, Massachusetts... a prep school. Went to Yale from there.

    Hardly a "good old boy" from Texas! ;)



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  8. DonkeyMagic

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    hmm, didnt know it was so litte time. but can you really blame him? who wouldnt want to be a texan?
     
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    All I'm askin' for is a little honesty... is that so much to ask for?? :p


    (from Bush! ;) )



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    From the National Review
    Mention in an opinion piece in the RMN
    Larry Elder mentions it to Laura Ingram
    You're joking right? It isn't poblematic to describe the relationship of white men to black women as being one of fantasies and realities of exploitation going back centuries? Would it be okay to say that the relationship of black men to white women has been one of rape and murder? That has also happened on occasion in the past. The vast majority of white men do not exploit black women, or fantasize about doing so, just as the vast majority of black men do not rape or murder white women. To suggest that such a thing is typical is far, far worse than anything Imus said.
     
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    I didn't know bush went to kincaid. that's funny it says piney point village, that's houston folks.
     
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    from politicians..yes. :(
     
  13. NewYorker

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    We're talking different groups.

    I'm talking about Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Who by the way are more racist than Imus in my mind.

    How ironic is it that?
     
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    I don't see how they are being racist in this case.

    I don't like the way they are dealing with the issue, but I don't see it as racist.
     
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    While it is true, that it has happened on occasion, there has been systemic exploitation by whites, but not the other way around.
     
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    Al sharpton has a long history of racism - including the central park jogger incident and the tawley whatever. He has used epitaths on numerous occasions.

    Jackson is not free of using racial epitaths either.

    So I wonder, how can calling someone a "cracker" be ok but "nappy headed" not be?

    I mean, seems to me that the message here is that it's ok to be a racist and say a racist thing so long as you don't work in media or sports or politics. Otherwise, you can say whatever you want and get away it, and even if you have a history that shows you are a racial bigot (see Al Sharpton), you can tar and feather someone else and make him lose your job as part of your McCartian crusade.
     
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    Both Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are in politics. How does that fit?

    Seems to me the message that is you can get away with bigotry if the people who are offended just simply take it. If they stand up and say it's wrong, you're screwed.
     
  18. Amel

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    lol

    this whole thing turned into a media joke where Imus got real ****ed up

    CNN front page says

    "Insulted players forgive but won't forget"

    :cool:
     
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    was i the only one that thought them being all depressed was a little bit of an act and that whole press conference was for recruiting? let a lone that coaches overdramatic speech
     
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    Jackson's racist remarks aren't part of the current situation, and I haven't heard Sharpton do anything racist in this situation either.

    As far as the cracker vs. nappy headed thing, there is a huge difference.

    The history behind the derogatory racist comments are miles apart. Whites have never been ostracized, denied, oppressed, treated as second class citizens, and having names like that used as part of the procedure.

    That isn't the same for African Americans, so the history behind the inults are miles apart.

    It is just plain silly for whites to run around crying, because they can be called names, and it isn't the same when they use racist names. There is such a vast difference it is amazing.
     

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