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The Imus Drama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amel, Apr 10, 2007.

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  1. rimrocker

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    You guys, in a roundabout way, just made the point a number of us have been trying to make... for if you agree that what Sharpton and Jackson said was offensive, you have to agree that what Imus said was as well... and by your arguments, if you do not have a problem with what Imus said, you shouldn't have a problem with what Jackson and Sharpton said. You can't say, using your own logic, that Sharpton and Jackson = bad while Imus = not bad.

    Furthermore, nobody that I'm aware of in this thread has called for his resignation. The bulk of this thread has been an argument between those that are looking to play down or justify what Imus said vs. those of us who think it is evident that his comment hit on both race and misogyny.

    I think there's been very little discussion of whether he should stay or go.
     
  2. gifford1967

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    I said I hope he is forced out. I stand by that.
     
  3. rimrocker

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    OK, cool. I think my general point still stands.
     
  4. ico4498

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    i never said, but i'm all for CBS & NBC dumping him.

    i'm a free speech advocate, so even his racist swill should have an outlet. perhaps satellite radio is a better forum to entertain the klansmen.
     
  5. NewYorker

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    I don't really have a problem with what Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton said - I'm not calling for thier resignation or firing. I have a problem with the inconsistent application of politcal correctness here.

    How can you support it in one case but not the other?

    I say Imus, Jackson, and Sharpton are all the same - they all said things that were offensive and that some call "racist". I say - let it go for all of them. But if you are going to call for Imus's dismissal - then why not call for the same for Jackson and Sharpton????

    If yall say don't dismiss those two, then I say you can't ask for Imus to be fired either.
     
  6. NewYorker

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    what about dumping jackson and sharpton for their comments?
     
  7. ubigred

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    im all for Imus being discontinued. Case close . America will no longer tolerate racism.

    With that said.....whats the over/under before another bigot spouts off??
     
  8. pgabriel

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    dumping them from what, the black race?
     
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    its probably happening as we speak....seeing as how Al is outside of CBS picketing and preaching
     
  10. ico4498

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    dump them from what?

    if they're your moral compass i guess its up to you to dump 'em. i don't claim either in any general fashion so nothing for me to dump.

    Imus turned to Sharpton as his confessor seeking some kinda absolution. misery loves company ... outside of that they have no relevance to Imus' racist tirade, or my opinion about Imus.
     
  11. Sishir Chang

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    He's probably referring to Al Sharpton from his own talk show but I have no idea what Jesse Jackson should be dumped from.
     
  12. weslinder

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    I'm a Pentecostal. We could think about dumping him from our denomination. But he's a smart guy and a pretty good preacher when he tries at it, so I don't think we will.
     
  13. DonkeyMagic

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    i wonder how this will effect imus' annual fundraising that he is doing now. i heard he got 1 mill but i wonder how that compares to his usual dollar amount
     
  14. Party Pizza

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    Just fired from CBS according to Yahoo.
     
  15. texanskan

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    that's bull****, I don't care about him but if he was black and was talking about white girls he does not even get suspended.
     
  16. DonkeyMagic

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    thats true.
     
  17. gifford1967

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    You are nuts. If Ed Bradley had ever gone on the air and said something like "Those pasty face sluts sure are skanky." CBS would have fired him in the blink of an eye.


    When black dj's and producers made fun of tsunami victims staff were fired and suspended.

    'Tsunami Song' fallout: 3 suspended, 2 fired

    By David Hinckley, New York Daily News

    February 2, 2005

    Hoping to quell the storm over its "Tsunami Song," WQHT yesterday fired morning-show producer Rick Del Gado, who created the song, and morning-team member Todd Lynn, who cracked on the air, "I'm gonna start shooting some Asians."

    But Hot-97 did not meet the demands of some critics and fire the rest of the Miss Jones morning show, which aired the parody for four days last month.

    Miss Jones, DJ Envy and production assistant Tasha Hightower will all be suspended for two weeks, said the station. They have been off since last Wednesday.

    Reaction from critics was swift yesterday and not all favorable.

    "Their statement is a joke," said City Councilman John Liu (D-Queens). "They need to fire Miss Jones, but even more important, they need to accept corporate responsibility."

    Noting that Hot-97 pledged a million dollars to tsunami relief, Liu said, "That's a joke, too. It should be $10 million. They said employees will donate a week's pay to relief funds. Fine. So they should donate a week of corporate profits."

    Hot-97's statement yesterday cited Del Gado for the song and Lynn for "offensive, racially insensitive comments," calling them "singularly egregious."

    Miss Info, the other member of the morning team, was not suspended, though she also has been off the air since last week. Miss Info, who is Asian, said on the air that the song offended her - which sparked the heated exchange during which Lynn made his "shooting" remark.

    Racial banter and exaggeration are not uncommon on morning shows, but critics said Lynn went way over the top.

    The "Tsunami Song" itself, set to the tune of "We Are the World," has been blasted for use of racial slurs and for making light of tsunami victims.

    Kai Yu of the group Asian Media Watch called Hot-97's actions yesterday "a start," but said they fall short of "full accountability ... all the way up to the people who approved this going on the air."

    Liu said further protest actions are planned: "We're only getting started."

    Several Hot-97 advertisers temporarily withdrew after the initial controversy.

    "The actions of the morning show were socially and morally indefensible," said Emmis President Rick Cummings. "The entire Emmis family is ashamed. Our decision ... sends a message that this type of insensitivity is utterly unacceptable."

    Jay Smooth, whose HipHopMusic.com has been bulldogging the case and has recorded a half-million hits, had a sharp E-mail exchange yesterday with Lynn, who told Smooth that his on-air remarks were "taken out of context."

    In the exchange, Lynn called the episode "one of the biggest mistakes of my life," describing the song as "very poor taste and bad judgment."

    But, he added, "None of us are bigots."

    Meanwhile, Miss Info will co-host an Asia Relief Fund Benefit on Saturday at Capitale on the Bowery with rapper Jin, who recorded a track blasting Hot-97.

    The original New York Daily News article available at: http://www.nydailynews.com/02-02-2005/front/story/277113p-237107c.html
     
  18. deepblue

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    Apparently Snoop thinks those comments were ok if you direct them at the right targets, and who do you think kids listen to more, Imus or Snoop?

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1556803/20070410/snoop_dogg.jhtml

     
  19. rimrocker

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    More detail...

     
  20. DonkeyMagic

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    snoop took time from trafficing to make imus comments...impressive
     

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