The Ideal Powerforward Who Was Born For Yao's Success

Again, you’re implying that Yao is creating these open shots for their teammates. He’s not getting the ball to his teammates where they are comfortable. They may be technically open shots, but their not “quality” open shots. An open 20 footer by Juwan Howard is not what I consider a quality shot. A 3-pointer by Sura, a weak shooter, is not a quality shot.

Name me a single former teammate of Yao’s who’s game has suffered since losing Yao as a teammate. Griffin, Francis, Cat, KT, Posey, etc. has any of their games suffered since being traded away?

And name a player who’s game improved dramatically playing with Yao. Piatkowski? Ward? Lue? Rice? These are all players that have historically been very good 3-point shooters for their careers. Yet for some reason when they come here to play with Yao, they don’t improve one bit.

 

How about the JVG factor? I thought Francis, Cat, Posey, KT played
their normal self with Yao under Rudy. For a mintue, please don't relate
Griffin, Piat, Ward, Lue, Rice's games to Yao. There were better reasons
for their sucking.

Seriously, I think making teammates better is so overrated. Check Parker
and Manu's numbers without TD, and Kobe's stats without Shaq (before
this season). All these guys improve their stats significantly without these
so-called superstars. Superstars may make the team better, but not
always teammates.

 

Wasn't it you who said Amare Stoudamire's success is only due to the addition of Steve Nash?

 

You must mistake me for someone else.
If you read the NBA forum, I am a big J*ocker of Amare.

However, Nash is a pass-first PG who does make the life easier for Amare.
Also, Suns is simply a loaded team. No one dare to double-team Amare.

 

then swap the VG brothers.

 

The funniest thing about needing a PF that meets all the requirments that a couple have listed as:

- Hitting the Outside Shot.
- Being able to bang inside.
- Some one who can get some boards.
- Someone who can block shots.

...is Kenny Thomas did just about all of these things for the Rockets when he was here. CD's inability to surround Yao and Tmac with good role players, and trading away our good role players for people who aren't here after the end of the season is starting to get to me. It's almost as irritating as JVG wanting to mold players into his system instead of molding his system with the players he has!

 

I wish we could of had DREW GOODEN instead of Juwon chicken mcNugget Howard in the McGrady deal. Gooden might not be the most perfect PF but damn he looks good right now. He's unselfish yet knows how to score mostly off of easy passes or putpacks and he's a good rebounder and can knock down that 15ft jumper everyone is talking about.

 

Regardless of what MoT and Juwan Howard can or can not do, we need to upgrade PF position, to get younger guys. Howard's career is winding down.

Maybe get a Omeke Okaford, and really develop his game.

 

Well, A wide open 3 pointer by Sura is always better than a triple-teamed Yao Ming inside shot. Bob Sura just need to practice more shooting and hitting those open shots consistently. Nobody is born with a perfect shot, you need to work on it and acquire this shooting skill.

I think these open looks you talked about are all good quality open shots, they just need to make them.

 

Teams didn't double pre-Yao Francis but doubled Yao, given roughly the same supporting cast. What's up with that?

 

Every player needs other players to make themselves better, because basketball is a team game . The great ones make their teammates better more than the role players make the great ones better. Simple question, do you think that Steve Kerr will make Yao better more than Yao makes Steve Kerr better?

 

Kelvin Cato was nothing but a slacker before playing with Yao. He was a slacker under Rudy T, a slacker with Francis, Mobley and Taylor, but he turned it around in the second half of Yao's rookie season. It was before JVG's arrival, so you can't spin it like JVG turned Cato around.

 

Unselfish? You must be watching a completely different Drew Gooden than I am. Additionally, IMO his basketball IQ is severely lacking.

The difference between Yao and Shaw's turnovers are in the way they happen. Rarely, in my experience watching, does Shaq get stripped the way Yao does. When Shaq has the ball down low, he is either fouled or gets a dunk, but rarely ever does he get stripped as Yao does. Shaqs turnovers seem to occur on a bad pass to a teammate than anything else.

Stuart

 

IMO, if our PFs can play strong defence, let's say being able to box out opponent PFs every time, we won't be out-rebounded any more. The reason is plain and simple, more than 90% of the rebounds will drop within the range of our C and PF. You can always see such scenes that Juwan or Taylor lost his man on defence while Yao successifully box his own man out. Box your man out first, then go for the rebounds.

 

even great players like shaq, duncan, Kg, kobe need help from teammates to win the championships....
Duncan needed David Robinson to protect him in order to win it all.
Shaq cant win with an 'old' Horace Grant that's why Malone came it and got hurt in the finals and everntually the lakers lost to the pistons cos their pfs suck!!!!!
KG needs sam cassell & sprewell in order to move to the second round, without them KG is just another T-mac
Kobe needs Shaq.....
Even the great hakeem needed Otis to help him on the rebound n defend, mario & horry to make the 3s in order to win it all....

So it's not SHAME that Yao needs a good PFs to help and protect him in order to success.
As for yao didnt make his teammates better... JJ n Cat recorded career highs in 3ptr made last year first time in their careers... thanks to who??? JVG?????

cheers!!!

 

I'd expect maybe double that.

 

How about PJ Brown?

 

Eddie Griffin is the perfect compliment to Yao.

Outside shooting, rebounding and blocking. All three elements we need in our 4.

Brand would be excellent for Yao as well. Inside banger who can get offensive rebounds like a mutha.

 

Rasheed is the best choice. Hes long, athletic, can shoot, has a decent post up moves, could be a good complimentary player, fiery, and has balls. The other one that i can think of dirk. Now, this is sick. Yao and Dirk together, you bet i gonna love this tandem more than the yao-Tmac combo. This is unreal and unfair. This is the real unside-outside connection. Two freak of nature combining to lead the houston mavs into the finals. And give Don van gundy his first championship.