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[The Hill] Spotify sides with Joe Rogan after Neil Young ultimatum

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Jan 26, 2022.

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  1. jo mama

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    i believe its a limited version unless you pay extra. i had jambase/rhapsody for like 15 years and switched to amazon music - its great and its very rare that i cant find something i want to listen to.
     
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  2. Os Trigonum

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    #62 Os Trigonum, Jan 27, 2022
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  3. Reeko

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    not gonna lie, I had no idea who he was

    this thread title to me was basically “random guy makes ultimatum to Spotify”
     
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  4. Os Trigonum

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    more on Neil Young

    https://reason.com/2022/01/27/my-my-hey-hey-neil-youngs-songs-are-here-to-stay-just-not-on-spotify/

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    . . . Generally speaking, it's a mug's game to demand that a given platform, service, record label, publishing house, or whatever conform to your singular moral demands. I hesitate to point out something that Neil Young, who has an official YouTube channel, probably already knows: Joe Rogan is also on that platform, with nearly 12 million subscribers. Should Neil Young, in the name of consistency, issue an ultimatum to YouTube and then bolt when the service refuses to yield to his demand? Where exactly does this sort of thing stop? Maybe all of us at our own paywalled sites, secure in our purity of association but with much less to talk about.

    And that leads me to my final lesson-and-a-half: It's a damn shame that Neil Young, age 76, is throwing one of the great OK, Boomer rage quits in recent memory. Talking with some of the younger people in my life (with "younger" generously defined as anyone born after the 1983 release of Everybody's Rockin', the album that led Geffen Records to sue Young for producing "not commercial" music), most of them had little to no idea who Neil Young was until this moment. If you are of a certain age, Neil Young was not simply one singer among many; he was a titan among gods. He reeled off a string of records from the late 1960s through the mid-1980s that helped define the upper limits of what rock music could accomplish as an art form. All at the same time, he could be folk, country, psychedelic, punk, and metal. Arguably, no male performer gave greater voice to the great cultural letdown after Woodstock while also embracing the still-underappreciated lifestyle liberation that made the '70s a fantastic time to be alive. (Joni Mitchell would be the female equivalent.) Just as important, if anything about rock music can be said to be important, he served as a bridge into the future, adopted by bands such as Pearl Jam as the grandfather of grunge and what came next in the alternative '90s.

    The cranky old man we see in front of us is not the whole person. We do well to remember our heroes in their prime as well as their dotage. And—this is the half-lesson I warned about—we also do well to remember that we listen to musicians for the best music they make, not the worst fits they throw.
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  5. jo mama

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    neil young > vince young > vince neil
     
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    i think you mean "couldnt give 2 ***** about PR". by saying "could" you are implying that he might not only be willing, but happy to take not one but two sh***s. its proper to say "couldnt" as it implies that he cares so little about PR that he wouldnt even make a single attempt to squeeze out the smallest bit of fecal matter. he literally doesnt give a s***.
     
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  7. Rashmon

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    It's not the first time Neil stood on principle and removed his music from Spotify.

    Keep on rocking in the free world. Go Neil...
     
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    I guess I'm looking at it through the lens of the Rogan situation. Censorship wherein the government stepped in, after the fact, and stopped speech of some kind. I can't recall any type of information censoring (not centered around decency etc) like that.
     
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    I hope Neil Young will remember, Rogan listeners don't need him around anyhow.
     
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    I dont understand why Young is upset. Spotify doesn't compel anyone to listen to things they disagree with. Quite the opposite.
     
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    LMAO bye..... Whoever you are....
     
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    #72 durvasa, Jan 27, 2022
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  13. Salvy

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    Thanks, I just googled him and checked out his music.....

    Bye Neil Young, already forgot about you even thou I just heard your most popular song ever....
     
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    Apple Music (if you have an iPhone) actually has a legitimately better product at this point, I don't really care for this Spotify drama.
     
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    Yep
     
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    How is the product better?

    They all are about the same, I actually prefer Pandora for the shuffle of random artist like the one I pick, I found a lot of music with Pandora I had never heard before.

    I have not listened to any for music in a while, so I don't know what the differences are currently, so maybe I am wrong.
     
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    It's a slippery slope though if big platforms start caving in to please each person. No one's forcing you to listen to Joe Rogan...I don't.

    Apple Music has a sh** interface. I get it for free through Verizon and I refuse to use it.
    I pay for spotify family instead.
     
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    How would you feel about CNN having a member of Al Qaeda on and allowing them to espouse anti-American sentiment? I think we’d all agree the government weighing in some way might be warranted.

    The ability to radicalize Americans to maybe kill someone is something we can all agree should be censored (maybe not with some here if it’s a white supremacy group) but using the same propaganda tricks to manipulate people into getting themselves killed by a virus shouldn’t be censored? I get the two have differences but hopefully you see my point. Censorship to protect people isn’t something we’ve always disagreed on.

    I don’t think “the government” is going to step in here regardless so imo it’s kind of a waste of time to argue. Biden is not Xi as much as the right has fever dreams that he might be.
     
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    So so good. Kinda famous for achieving this particular sound with a bunch of daisy-chained pedal effects.

     
    #79 B-Bob, Jan 27, 2022
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    Guest who state false information that cost a few lives. But heck, who cares right?
     
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