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The Hate of T-Mac on this board

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by coolblade587, Jan 26, 2009.

  1. ibm

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    dominating the ball would've been perfectly fine - if, and only if - one is delivering.
     
  2. DrRafay

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    I dont even want mcgrady to play...at all...i rather have wafer play in his place...for the rest of the year...
     
  3. IamKhan

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    Kidd is a top 3 passing PG, but he basically destroyed Dallas's hopes. Further more, passing for a SHOOTING guard is nice to have, not a must have skill.

     
  4. meh

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    Okay, I didn't watch the Detroit game, but if people were pissed that T-Mac wasn't dominating, then I would have a problem with that. Because I personally don't want T-Mac to be what he was in this game, which is a ball-stopper who's not good enough to be one.

    So I'm someone who wishes both T-Mac and Artest(to a lesser extent) just be great role players. The only player on this team I can live with going 7-20 and still jacking up shots at the end of the game is Yao.
     
  5. Shaud

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    T-mac and Ron both struggled. The biggest difference is T-mac gets his teammates wide open shots even when he isn't scoring .Artest when he isn't scoring does nothing on offense. He's a good defender even though he struggled tonight.
     
  6. t_mac1

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    tracy didn't shoot well today, but he wasn't the worst player on the team by any means.

    ron artest was beyond awful tonight (4-19 with a PF guarding you?)

    i do admit wafer should play more minutes and he did tonight. tracy only played 31 minutes.
     
  7. jVgOwnsYou

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    Yao didn't play tonight. Artest wasnt playmaking. You have to go to mcgrady. Who else do you go to?

    People sing the praises of guys like Wafer and Scola, but the truth is that you cant go to them at the end of games because they play off of mcgrady and Yao.

    There are three guys i think you give the ball to at the end of games for the rockets. Tracy, Yao, Brooks...Those are our best playmakers. Artest is not the playmaker i thought he was. He is either still injured or he has lost a step.
     
  8. jVgOwnsYou

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    Artest is just not nearly as explosive as he was last year. The ankle must be still bothering him. He is just living and dying by the jump shot right now.
     
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    The man looks like a bull in a chinashop on offense. No finesse whatsover - leads to wild chucks. I think its a combo of his lack of explosiveness plus terrible spacing.
     
  10. t_mac1

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    he took 10 3s tonight making 1. when you know it's not working, do something else.

    tracy should also make a more concerted effort going to the rim.

    tracy played pretty good up until late in the 4th where he went 0-5. artest was just a ghost all game.

    but von and barry should have more minutes if our starters don't make their shots like tonight.
     
  11. jVgOwnsYou

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    There were times where the spacing was bad tonight, but there were other times where ron got the ball and he was one on one with a much slower defender and he was very hesistant driving to the goal. He just looked slow.
     
  12. Shaud

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    Artest played the same way on offense against Detroit as he did tonight the only difference is the shots were going in. He always takes bad shots. Him and T-mac don't move without the ball and it is frustrating.
     
  13. Seven

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    You are definitely bias, but I'd have to say, you are way more reasonable than most Tmac fans. When someone starts a T-mac thread, we certainly know you'll be there, but sometimes you surprise us with something rational.

    I agree with those statements :)
     
  14. jVgOwnsYou

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    Yeh i didnt have a problem with the way mcgrady played. His is still a little out of sync, but thatll come back with time.....Ron's play was a little concerning. He couldn't buy a basket, and his shot selection was very poor.
     
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    we'll be fine. there's going to be an adjustment bringing back 2 guys who can score individually. we showed we can play beautiful ball with those 2 v. detroit. just gotta get more practice time with these 2 guys.

    remember we played well without these 2 guys b/c WE GOT PRACTICE TIME.

    what i'm worried about is artest's unwillingness to pass. it's like he has the kobe disease early in his career.
     
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    if tracy does bad, i'll criticize him. the game was there for him to win and he failed. it was as simple as that. right now, tracy is not a great player yet and it's very obvious. will he get back to that? he showed glimpses of it tonight with some vintage tracy moves.

    but right now, we need yao back. yao is our go-to player right now b/c he's our healthiest star. hopefully tracy and ron can eventually catch up so we can fulfill hopes of our big 3.

    i think tracy's legs caught up to him late in the game. the airball 3 was evident. he'll be fine though.

    artest will also get better. but is he willing to pass is my main concern?
     
  17. bigthree08

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    if you're a yao ming fan here looking to bash tmac in this thread, you should stop... and stop being so sensitive when i mention yao.
    kicking yao's teammate repeatedly when he's not playing well.. guys like badgerfan jvgownsyou etc you guys make yao ming fans look bad
     
  18. Seven

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    They aren't the only ones, which makes it even more frustrating. Our starting lineup, when healthy is filled with guys who don't move without the ball. Scola doesn't pass very often, Yao has been mediocre at passing and hitting the jumpshot, and the other three...just stands around.
     
  19. Shaud

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    You're right.

    When it comes to passing T-mac and Rafer are the only ones that will make a pass, problem is they also take bad shots.

    Battier just stands in the corner.

    Artest stands at the 3 pt line. When he touches it he doesn't pass.

    Scola will pass sometimes, but a lot of the times he doesn't even look up, he has his head down. Scola has been passing better lately though.

    Yao, he's not a great passer but decent enough. We need Yao plain and simple.

    Our bench played pretty good today.
     
  20. Shaud

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    If Wafer wasn't scoring he would be pretty much useless on offense. T-mac creates for others when scoring. I would rather them both play. Adelman just has to figure out a way to get Wafer in the game when T-mac and Artest are struggling like they were tonight.
     

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