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The Great Wall vs. The Dream

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch City1993, Dec 21, 2006.

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  1. choujie

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    At least Muresan and Yao has similarity in terms of size and speed. That' not totally out of mind, right? :)
     
  2. choujie

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    Current Yao could destroy that rookie Yao, but not the second year Yao. They are even now. :)

    Stay tuned, more lunacy coming up next. :)
     
  3. supermike

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    are you talking about the first game between shaq and yao? do you know how much yao weighted back then? and shaq was still at his prime. a rookie with around 20 games experiences in NBA got double double in front of one of the most dominant centre in NBA history, and you think he was destoryed with ease? you are funny. just answer my question, you think dream is 5 times better than shaq? if not, how could you guys figure out that dream would destory a 25/10 yao with ease?
     
  4. Clutch City1993

    Clutch City1993 Bury Me In The H

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    Whoa, whoa....I dunno if anybody has gotten into the debate yet but could Dream actually stuff Yao? I say if Nate can......he definitely could.
     
  5. choujie

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    DOD didn't say dream would destory a 25/10 yao. His statements are fair. Some other people did.
     
  6. choujie

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    Not if he can stuff Yao, as we all know he can, but if he can stuff Yao's fadeway frequently.
     
  7. pluto

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    Dream will outplay Yao right now ,no doubt .But dominate ? you guys are really living in the past .Dream is not the God .I feel so pathetic for many of you who act like a old unperson .
     
  8. SamFisher

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    Styles make fights.
     
  9. supermike

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    exactly! dream might be better than yao. or outplay yao. but

    "Hakeem ~ 74 pts 33 rebounds 12 blocks

    Yao ~ 3 pts 2 rebounds 0 blocks"

    Dream will destory yao with ease

    blah blah...

    those words really sound funny. some people just tend to live in the past.
     
  10. heypartner

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    well then, mark me down as someone who loves Yao so much, that I'm blind to the supposed fact that Kareem was a dynasty unto himself that Yao isn't even close to.

    y'all look at stats too much and not the game.
     
  11. Dr of Dunk

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    Ok, fine, I'll come back just to answer your questions which seem to come out of left field somewhere :

    1) What do I care what Yao "weighted" back then? If you're talking about weight, Hakeem weighed 250-260 lbs for most of his career. Don't use weight as a crutch - he was outheighted and outweighed by many of the people he guarded. Yao, to my knowledge, has never weighed less than around 280-290 lbs. in his NBA career, although I could be wrong about that.

    2) Yao got a double-double in OT. Whooptie doo. 10 pts, 10 rebs - 31 pts, 13 rebs. Sorry my man, that's domination.

    3) Find where I stated Dream is 5 times better than Shaq, and I'll answer your question.

    4) Find where I stated Dream would destroy Yao with ease. Defensively he is a far better player than Yao. Offensively they're much closer. From what I've seen of both to this point, I'd definitely take Hakeem over Yao. He's more versatile on defense and is just as good, if not better, on offense.

    Calm down. lol.
     
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  12. heypartner

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    just so that I bow out of this thread with the facts in order...allow me to repeat....Hakeem is the #1 ppg PF or C in playoff history. active or retired...
     
  13. Clutch

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    I think I would feel worse about what you wrote if it was in English.

    I have to laugh about the "living in the past" comments that keep popping up... I don't even think about Hakeem when I watch Yao. Yao has been awesome lately. I'm not even knocking him. But if you're going to ask to compare a current player with the player of the past, universally regarded as one of the top 5 or 6 centers ever, then we're going to talk about the past.

    If you want to get an answer more to your liking, may I suggest taking a survey on the streets of Shanghai.
     
  14. hotblooded

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    I dont think Mark Eaton is far stronger than yao

    Stronger maybe

    but I think we are underrating how strong Yao is NOW

    I dont think Anyone can push yao around (maybe shaq and even that is an iffy) Yao doesnt move when fat Curry, Fat Kwame, Ugly Kamen ramms into him

    his is superstrong with those thunder thighs of his

    but then again his lower body has always been solid


    now his upperbody has bulked up Substantialy, with the amount of work he has put into trainging and going to the gym, the difference is eye bobbling

    i vividly recall Yao's personal trainer ( the ex rocket trainer whose name slips my mind) saying How yao is his strongest client and he has had clients such as HOllyfield and the likes
     
  15. Coach AI

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    We (well, us Rocket fans anyway) should feel thankful that we've had such great big men on our team over the years. Yao is already adding to that history; I believe he will only keep adding to that.

    Some of you need to understand that just because many of us don't think Yao is quite a Dream's level yet doesn't mean anything bad on Yao. I just don't think many of you understand what we saw Olajuwon do, or what he brought to this city.

    Here's hoping Yao can someday do the same.
     
  16. hotblooded

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    Now on to the topic at hand

    sorry that my dreamshake vs shanghai shake comparison was received with seriousness because it wasnt meant to be

    anyone can see how amazing the dreamshake is and the shanghai shake in comparison is errr basically...let just put it this way not in its league.. I cant imagine anyone else right now (a big man) that can pull off the dream shake effectively on a nightly basis


    in terms of Yao vs the Dream 1on1

    the dream is not going to stop Yao if he doesnt front Yao

    yaos turnaround fadeaway or straightup jumpshot is very very difficult to block and its almost automatic

    Hakeem is 6'10, Yao is 7'6 the height diffference IS a factor

    the only way Hakeem can stop Yao is if Yao tries to drive or post up against Hakeem in which case Hakeem will just strip the ball away from him or block any half-assed layup attempt

    its not even a contest on the defensive end between the two, but offensively Yao is as polished as Hakeem just because of his accuracy
     
  17. Riz

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    Dream would dominate no questions about it!! ask this same question in 3-4 years maybe then it might be a little challenging :)
     
  18. SamFisher

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    It's not about strength. Eaton had WAY longer arms and was one of the top 2-3 shot blockers who ever lived. Yao is barely even in the top 10 in the league in every given year. Eaton is in a different class than Yao in that department.
     
  19. hotblooded

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    I know

    but I was referring to what Dr of Dunk said a few pages back regarding how Eaton is "Far Stronger" than Yao

    Yao's shotblocking is not the best but Come On the guy does so much on the offensive end running picks if not posting up i am surprised that he has the energy to even try to contest and block shots
     
  20. Vivid

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    If two people could play from different eras...who would win...who would come out on top?
    The thing about Yao is he hasn't been challenged....There is no one out there to challenge this guy and the public is quickly turning against...
    Obviously the Dream went through many battles and had the go up against many of the players in history...
    We put it into our computers here at ESPN...and simulated this battle of the giants....in one corner standing 7'6 300 pounds is Yao Ming....In the the other corner Hakeem the Dream standing 7'0 250...
    Our computers show that the Dream would reign supreme...
     

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