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The GOP Death March

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rashmon, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. Hightop

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    The government forcing employers to provide, or citizens to buy health insurance, (that must include particular services) is a bit more than a couple of mandates. But that force is just fine with the "Talibany" liberals because they think their oppression is justified.
     
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    Your selective outrage has been noted. Thank you for confirming the suspicions I had.
     
  3. Hightop

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    Right. I'm not that big on the ultrasounds (if that is what you are referring to, I don't even know). But it doesn't even come close to the federal mandates. And all employers will be forced to pay for the ultrasounds, so don't worry about them. You can put subsidized condoms on the aborted Fetuses then hang them on your Obama tree.
     
  4. Rashmon

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    What's worse on your scale of government intrusion on citizen privacy: a TSA patdown or a transvaginal ultrasound?
     
  5. thegary

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    hightop to buddhism is the GOP to christianity is the utah jazz to the rockets
     
  6. rimrocker

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    Yep...

     
  7. rhadamanthus

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    FranchiseBlade:

    Here is an absolutely fascinating article on the subject. Excerpts:

     
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  8. FranchiseBlade

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    Thanks, that was very interesting. It was also kind of frightening and depressing in a way. You'd think more knowledge and facts would dispel misconceptions.

    I read it, but it's really hard to get my head around.
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    The basic problem is the lens that you put those facts through and as we've seen frequently in political discussions cherry picking and shifting of emphasis of facts based upon political views.

    For example in the Global Warming debate we frequently have people citing things like that there has been a 10 year leveling of temps to say that it isn't happening. That is a fact (depending on what measuring source) you are using but it's also a fact that over a hundred years we see temperatures rising overall.
     
  10. Rashmon

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    Ghastly Outdated Party
    By MAUREEN DOWD; Published: February 25, 2012

    WASHINGTON

    IT’S finally sinking in.

    Republicans are getting queasy at the gruesome sight of their party eating itself alive, savaging the brand in ways that will long resonate.

    “Republicans being against sex is not good,” the G.O.P. strategist Alex Castellanos told me mournfully. “Sex is popular.”

    He said his party is “coming to grips with a weaker field than we’d all want” and going through the five stages of grief. “We’re at No. 4,” he said. (Depression.) “We’ve still got one to go.” (Acceptance.)

    The contenders in the Hester Prynne primaries are tripping over one another trying to be the most radical, unreasonable and insane candidate they can be. They pounce on any traces of sanity in the other candidates — be it humanity toward women, compassion toward immigrants or the willingness to make the rich pay a nickel more in taxes — and try to destroy them with it.

    President Obama has deranged conservatives just as W. deranged liberals. The right’s image of Obama, though, is more a figment of its imagination than the left’s image of W. was.

    Newt Gingrich, a war wimp in Vietnam who supported W.’s trumped-up invasion of Iraq, had the gall to tell a crowd at Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Okla., that defeating Obama — “the most dangerous president in modern American history” — was “a duty of national security” because “he is incapable of defending the United States” and because he “wants to unilaterally weaken the United States.” Who killed Osama again?

    How can the warm, nurturing Catholic Church of my youth now be represented in the public arena by uncharitable nasties like Gingrich and Rick Santorum?

    “It makes the party look like it isn’t a modern party,” Rudy Giuliani told CNN’s Erin Burnett, fretting about the candidates’ Cotton Mather attitude about women and gays. “It doesn’t understand the modern world that we live in.”

    After a speech in Dallas on Thursday, Jeb Bush also recoiled: “I used to be a conservative, and I watch these debates and I’m wondering, I don’t think I’ve changed, but it’s a little troubling sometimes when people are appealing to people’s fears and emotion rather than trying to get them to look over the horizon for a broader perspective.”

    Alan Simpson, the former Republican senator from Wyoming, recently called Santorum “rigid and homophobic.” Arlen Specter, who quit the Republicans to become a Democrat three years ago before Pennsylvania voters sent him home from the Senate, told MSNBC: “Where you have Senator Santorum’s views, so far to the right, with his attitude on women in the workplace and gays and the bestiality comments and birth control, I do not think it is realistic for Rick Santorum to represent America.” That from the man who accused Anita Hill of perjury.

    Republicans have a growing panic at the thought of going down the drain with a loser, missing their chance at capturing the Senate and giving back all those House seats won in 2010. More and more, they openly yearn for a fresh candidate, including Jeb Bush, who does, after all, have experience at shoplifting presidential victories at the last minute.

    Their jitters increased exponentially as they watched Mitt belly-flop in his hometown on Friday, giving a dreadful rehash of his economic ideas in a virtually empty Ford Field in Detroit, babbling again about the “right height” of Michigan trees and blurting out that Ann “drives a couple of Cadillacs.”

    Romney’s Richie Rich slips underscore what Ed Rollins, a Republican strategist, told the Ripon Forum: “If we are only the party of Wall Street and country clubbers, we will quickly become irrelevant.”

    Santorum, whose name aptly comes from the same Latin root as sanctimonious, went on Glenn Beck’s Web-based show with his family and offered this lunacy: “I understand why Barack Obama wants to send every kid to college,” because colleges are “indoctrination mills” that “harm” the country. He evidently wants home university schooling, which will cut down on keggers.

    His wife, Karen, suggested that her husband’s success is “God’s will” and that he wants “to make the culture a better culture, more pleasing to God.”

    The barking-mad Republicans of Virginia are helping to make the party look foolish and creepy. A video went viral on Friday in which Delegate Dave Albo comically regaled his fellow lawmakers on the floor of the Statehouse with his own Old Dominion version of “Lysistrata”: he suggested that he was denied sex with his wife because of a Republican-sponsored bill that would have made ultrasounds, often with a vaginal probe, mandatory for women seeking abortions.

    With music, red wine and a big-screen TV, he made a move on his wife, Rita, while she was watching a news report about the bill. “And she looks at me and goes, ‘I’ve got to go to bed,’ ” Albo said as his colleagues guffawed.

    The Republicans, with their crazed Reagan fixation, are a last-gasp party, living posthumously, fighting battles on sex, race, immigration and public education long ago won by the other side.

    They’re trying to roll back the clock, but time is passing them by.
     

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