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The future of the EU and the UK, post-Brexit

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Dec 4, 2016.

  1. dmoneybangbang

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    Where was Boris Johnson's and his ilk's plan aside from the referendum talk.....?

    And you right wing populists don't know what to do after you run an emotional campaign full of nostalgia and xenophobia.
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    Geeze, what have they done to you that you wish economic hardship on them?
     
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  3. dachuda86

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    What kind of hardships are worse than losing your country to a superstate?
     
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    Well, you and they are about to find out lol.
     
  5. arno_ed

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    Yeah you are right it is terrible being part of the EU. I have no freedom, everything is determined by Brussels. We really lost our country :rolleyes:

    The leave group has made a campaign on fear, xenophobia, nostalgia and lies (like Trump did). Only idiots fall for those tricks and unfortunately there are many idiots.

    I like the following video on the subject:


    The best scenario would be that they stay. I do find it funny that the people who were most active in the leave campaign are nowhere to be found when actual policies have to be made. They knew leaving is a terrible idea, and they just want to complain,
     
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  6. dachuda86

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    Your cartoon absolutely outlines what the stay people do as well. Forced PERCEPTION. The entire Gov't funded propaganda cartoon does this, picking easy angles to show. It doesn't waste time painting the leave people as nazi pawns. You are a pawn if you buy this crap. You'll be fine without Germany's united Europe project.
     
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    Your cartoon absolutely outlines what the stay people do as well. Forced PERCEPTION. The entire Gov't funded propaganda cartoon does this, picking easy angles to show. It doesn't waste time painting the leave people as nazi pawns. You are a pawn if you buy this crap. You'll be fine without Germany's united Europe project.
     
  8. arno_ed

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    Funny that you only commented on a video. Can you tell me how the countries in the EU are lost to the super state?

    The difference is that the current stay people use the opinions of experts, something Leave has never done, they used lies based on nothing.
     
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  9. dachuda86

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    The only fear I see lately is the fear mongering coming from people on the stay side, who want to deny their own voters' will at this point and live in denial about the reality of the EU. The sky is not falling, and you will be fine. You are a powerful country and the EU will miss you more than you miss it.

    You can keep your government propaganda, because that's likely where you get your info on the leave folks. The working class who you likely despise.
     
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  10. arno_ed

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    LOL, So you have no input relating to the content. I wish I could say that was shocking. However that does mean that having a discussion with you is pointless. Enjoy living in your bubble.

    Furthermore it is clear you have made some assumptions about me (which are also clearly wrong).
     
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  11. arno_ed

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    LOL, So you have no input relating to the content. I wish I could say that was shocking. However that does mean that having a discussion with you is pointless. Enjoy living in your bubble.

    Furthermore it is clear you have made some assumptions about me (which are also clearly wrong).
     
  12. dmoneybangbang

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    I guess we could ask Texas.......

    Although the UK doesn't have the natural resources to be like Texas....
     
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    The UN doesn't have sovereignty over member states, the EU does have sovereignty over their member states. There's just no comparison there.
     
  14. dmoneybangbang

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    Define sovereignty.
     
  15. arno_ed

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    Sorry i meant EU. I fixed nu post.
     
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    Sorry i meant EU. I fixed my post.
     
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    You have lazily put a propaganda cartoon down and critique me for not commenting on it? It is utter garbage. You enjoy your bubble.
     
  18. Bandwagoner

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    Leave, stop paying the EU, control own borders, lower tariffs on food clothing and footwear which takes a higher percentage of the less fortunate income, remove the ECJ as the highest court in the UK, leave the single market. You disliking the plan doesn't make it non existent.

    I know you are far smarter and have far better morals than 17 million UK voters but you have to respect election results.
     
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    Were the election results for a No Deal Brexit or just some vague notion of leaving the EU? Was a No Deal Brexit the original plan of the Brexiters or just the result of not being able to execute a plan after the referendum?

    Are you so clairvoyant that you know 17 million UK voters knew they were voting for a No Deal Brexit as being a likely scenario?
     
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    I watched the debates and the Remainers were carefully outlining why in their opinion leaving the single market ("no access to the single market" BS) the customs union and the EU warrant system would be horrible and why the ECJ is so great. The key elements were clearly being debated and easily understood by anyone who watched.

    Without delivering on those key elements, there is no Brexit. I find it perplexing how after the trump tariffs the same people who criticized them are saying the UK will go bankrupt after they are no longer imposing tariffs on Texas beef and florida oranges.
     

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