The future of America with the Tea Party in control

What are some specific, bold action items this diverse group of people generally agree on?

 

I doubt most Tea Party members want to abolish the FDA. I certainly do though.

It amazes me that those who are against the war on drugs are in favor of the FDA performing the same prohibition function. It's a clear logical inconsistency. At most, the FDA should be a provider of information, not the gatekeeper for what individuals can do with their bodies.

Companies should be responsible for the claims they make. But individuals are responsible for the risks they take. If you are not satisfied with the information provided about a drug or procedure, don't take it.

I find it highly offensive when senators use their power to obtain information from private institutions or individuals. It's called proprietary information for a reason.

 

The FDA can and has approved drugs that aren't safe. Part of the problem with the FDA is that people assume if it's FDA approved then it's safe. They abdicate their responsibility to be an informed consumer to the state, which has standards and agendas that may be entirely different.

The important distinction between the FDA and a drug company is that only one can forcibly deny you medicine.

 

Where did I ever say that Islam was inherently a violent religion? I didn't so your premise is wrong off the bat. Do you remember where I said that I could find plenty of violence in the Old Testament and probably almost any book of faith?

Math aside, I was trying to generate a number from a small percentage of Muslims worldwide to show that it was a sizable population which could be dead-set on mayhem and destruction. As I said earlier, someone had posted a couple of years ago from a source that estimated the number of Muslim extremists at 900,000 so I looked at current Muslim population and tried to figure out a formula that arrived at approximately the same number just to demonstrate that even a small percentage of a very large population always resulted in a large pool.

You're not going to deny the level of violence that this group is committing are you?

Are you and Qazi looking at the KKK from a century ago and the Christian Crusaders from a thousand years ago to justify or understand what is happening today? What kind of progress is that? How superstitious were they?

 

There will be no future in America with the Tea Party in control.

 

Fixed.

 

Sorry A_3PO; not even then; unless of course white people can reverse the trend of demographic growth in America. I see the Tea Party as the last, dying primal scream of a group of people that is becoming the permanent minority in America and that ain’t going to change.

 

I understand your view but disagree. Unless they put substantive meat on the bones, the tea party movement will shrink and become an irrelevant, reactionary, brief footnote in history. The GOP will leave them in the corner and morph into whatever it takes for them to win presidential and statewide elections.

 

It’s been a year since the crazy of last August and there’s be no evolution of the movement; see the article on the uni tea event over the weekend.

I just don’t see it happening

 

I think you should probably quite while you are ahead. The FDA has its own share of fraud and corruption that has been evidenced over the years.

Don't try and minimize the Tea Party Movement with your triffle associations. The movement in and of itself is the people growing ever so tired of a federal government over stepping its boundaries, completely dismissing the constitution, completely dismissing the wants of the "majority" of the people, spending the country into a massive debt spiral that they have not clue how to get out of, selectively enforcing laws like immigration and tax evasion when and where they see fit.

 

What spending cuts does the tea party movement propose?

 

Some of them propose cutting Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, basically all of the "entitlement" programs. To be fair, some of them advocate cutting defense, but those people are shouted down at some TP forums while lauded at others.

 

Admittedly, economic issues are complex, but we are talking about the perceptions of the general public and a social/political movement. You might enjoy reading Meeropol's study of U.S. economic policy, "Surrender: How The Clinton Administration Completed the Reagan Revolution."

 

I am not a spokesperson for the movement, but my perception is they want Republicans and Democrats to bring the Federal Budget under control, to erase deficits, to truly protect the borders or enforce immigration laws already on the books, to respect State governments, to cut taxes, to limit federal government control and initiatives. They think that the Bush administration "sold them out" by ignoring conservative values and they view Obama as a socialist and a dangerous threat to national security. I do not think they support Big Corporations or Big Government who they view as being in bed together. To an extent they represent the middle class who pays all the taxes and get few if any benefits or breaks. For example, they pay huge insurance premiums while it is their view that illegals get extensive and expensive free medical care.

 

I have a question. Why don't the they just stop paying for the huge insurance premiums and go for the the extensive and expensive free medical care? Is the extensive and expensive free medical care for illegals only? I mean, would the clerk there say, "hey wait a minute, you are legal, I'm sorry this extensive and expensive free medical care is for illegal aliens only".

 

What free medical care is available to the average middle class citizen?

 

I'm asking YOU, why not just get the free one that illegals are supposedly getting?

 

blame the illegals

in the first part of the 20th century it was blame the blacks

illegals are not the problem, yes they get access to social services, but they work and pay taxes on benefits they will never get

how are the middle class getting screwed, you should be happy to have health insurance, do you think going to a county hospital is as opposed to one in your network is better.

the bulk of government spending is military which is more than the next ten nations combined and entitlements.

people talk about ending social security and medicare till they get close to retirement and then they think again. old people vote, and politicians aren't going to end those programs if they want to stay public officials.

now is not the time to cut government spending, when we were running surpluses, you guys thought the government was taking your money and you had bush cut taxes, so I don't know what you're criticizing him for. The irony is you got what you wanted, so now deal with the reprecussions.

 

And there are some who are up in arms about possible cuts to Medicare. I don't think there is clear agreement among Tea Partiers on what to cut.