Jalen got past Curry and multiple defenders. The lane was clogged most of the night. Rockets had very few driving lanes since they simply camped at least 2 in the paint every time. One good Curry defensive play shouldn't be the narrative. Green shot poorly last night and I always say he needs to use his body more on bigs to draw fouls. regardless you all have seen him drive and score successfully on many teams in his 4 years in the league. To minimize his talent to one or two defensive stops by Curry is ridiculous. Fact is Rockets played how they played early in the season. No movement and watch Sengun operate. 5 Warriors in the Paint. terrible Rockets spacing. Got by Curry has draymond there. He did make the right read and passed it to a wide open Tari but Tari missed Double Teamed again. Terrible Rockets spacing Green Camped in Paint. Got by Curry again. Just missed layup.
Seems like some Rockets fans continue to scapegoat Green and Fred to a certain extent. Several Rockets players did not play well. As good as Sengun played he had 5 TO's which led to pts the other way. Amen was off offensively and out of sorts on defense. Tari was off missing all 5 threes. Rockets were 11-20 FT's. Again the Rockets didn't attack from different angles like they did in some of those great wins. They didn't change up the types of screens like the 1-5 screen up top or screening from 28 ft out etc. The spacing was bad. They kept driving with Sengun from the high post or top of key. It was such a predictable offense. It was baffling that we saw the OCT 2024 Rockets again.
I dunno what people watch and see. That's where bias comes in. People see what they want to see when the evidence is clear. They stopped the Rockets dribble drive by packing the paint. Very simple. Amen and Jalen who are the initiators had nowhere to go. They are still vulnerable though if we spread our offense out and keep sengun away from the middle of the key. Need shooters on the perimeter and sengun in the short corner. let the guards and amen operate. When sengun does get the ball let him drive from elbows or wings. also look for weakside corner and short corner and weak side wing. They always leave these areas to load up.
CC doesn't play with a SF who can't shoot more than 10 ft or a Center which the offense is built around. I am curious to see what CC can do with 5 warriors in the paint. Again it's about personnel, style of play, and tactics.
CC was also 8-21 FG 6 TO's 1st game. lets not get too carried away here. good for him for game 2. good young player
Again, right now, Amen or Jalen, I bet all management in NBA history will choose Amen over Jalen. My point is, if you are a true franchise player, the team will for sure make all adjustments to accommodate you. In reality, the reason why Jalen doesn't get his best circumstances is exactly because he did not show enough in the past four years to make people believe he is "the guy".
so did sengun. had a wide open player on 3. decided to drive on 2 guys. ended up hoisting a pass back to the 3. turnover. no one talks about this. no one. the point is fans keep blaming one player its baffling to me when there's a whole team which played poorly for the most part and with several mistakes on both ends. the whole team was stfiled offensively yet we blame one guy. it wasnt all senguns fault as much as it wasnt all green's. collectively rockets sucked
Again you should follow Sixers or Suns instead of the Rockets if all you want to do is win now. What did Ishbia say again? Oh yeah: https://burncitysports.com/2023/02/21/mat-ishbia-im-always-trying-to-win-and-im-trying-to-win-now/ The Rockets arent exactly a tanking team, they got 2nd seed and are in the playoffs already. Asking more from them at this point is just you being delusional. Imagine being mad and expecting championships after the team started from ground zero. lol wtf.
Neither Amen nor Jalen has proved anything at this point. Sure Amen has the most potential, but as far as converting that potential to actual production only Sengun has showed up so far. Maybe you didnt notice but Amen was also ass that game same as Jalen. It just wasnt as prominent as Amen cant shoot and didnt get the ball as much, but he also played badly including missing most of his FTs. Jalen isnt being paid like "the guy" he is being paid like an elite role player just like Derrick White. If this is who he is thats fine cuz he is just fairly paid. Problem is everyone is both down on him but also expecting him to be a franchise superstar just like Cade Cunningham. Well Cade is due to make the super max Green isnt.
I don't know where this discussion is going man. the discussion is about how many of you thought he was garbage last night and mocked him using one good curry defensive play as an example. this isnt fair to green and this isnt an accurate depiction or portrayal of his play this year. all this in light of how poorly the whole team played and was stopped by a very game warrior team.
They camped in the paint dude. Rockets reverted to their old ways after they scored 21 points. it was weird. Amen couldn't do anything as well. The dribble drive just wasn't there and the spacing bad. when they did shoot they missed.
yep. the personnel, style, and tactics often result in a stalled offense. Udoka has changed things but I don't know why they resorted to the old OCT 2024 offense. it bothers me that their whole offense after scoring 21 points was dump it to sengun.
Curry and Butler are part of a different system. they dont have a SF who can't shoot and an offense based off a center. they also run multiple types of screens and flares to get open. we dont do that. we are a simple high screen or DHO dribble drive team. if the lane is clogged we pass it back out. no movement no multiple screens and little cross court passing.
The discussion is not going anywhere for sure. It's just different opinions. You think it's unfair to blame on Jalen. I am aware that the whole team played bad but I am still thinking Jalen is the main responsible person. Different opinions, that's it. Don't know what are you trying to prove here. I replied you just because you mention that "CC doesn't play with a SF who can't shoot"..I find that Jalen fans always find excuses, blame the coach, blame the environment, blame how uncomfortable he is playing right now...Yes, he for sure plays uncomfortable because he did not improve enough in the past four years. If he did, he certainly can find ways to be effective together with Amen. That's why I think your example of CC not playing with Amen is so absurd. Again, my point is always - if you are a true franchise player, the team will for sure make all adjustments to accommodate you, no need to find other excuses, Jalen is just not that good.
Of course I noticed Amen played poor also. But you say "ass that game same as Jalen"? That's ridiculous. As I said, for Amen, at least I know I can always expect him to be solid on defense. Regarding Jalen, if he can't score, I don't know what else I can expect from him. Glad that you mention Jalen isnt being paid like "the guy". True. Why? Because he just can't, he is not good enough for a better contract. I agree with you he is being paid like an elite role player. The first game he played also way below an elite role player. In fact, his inefficient level always made me even question whether the current contract is too big for him. That's pathetic.
First playoff game for the young blood. I expected it, to be honest. He just needs to play like it's a regular season game and tune out the noise.
I’m simply having a discussion. I also did not call your opinion absurd. I blamed nothing. If you read my other posts I said he played poorly. All of a sudden you shifted the conversation to Amen and coaches choice and franchise player talk. That’s not what the discussion was about. I objected to you hyping up Cunningham saying they’re not in the same class and mentioned that the team is constructed differently. Cade has shooters all around. This is a fact. There’s differences and to conveniently lump everything together is oversimplifying the situation. Cade wouldn’t do shi+ against 5 players in the paint and an offense that revolves around a center who can’t shoot beyond 15 ft and a non shooting SF. I also mentioned they specifically game planned to take away the dribble drive which they did. The Rockets had to rush shots under heavy ball pressure and a clogged paint. To blame one player is always wrong since it’s a team game. Sengun the other “franchise” player had 5 TOs resulting in 10 pts the other way yet you and fans say nothing. Fact is we played a well prepared team that stopped our offense. FYI This is an assessment not an opinion since opinion isn’t always based on facts or analysis.
What do you mean I shifted the conversation to Amen? I firstly replied to your post talking about CC does not play with Amen blablabla. It is you who brought up the topic. I know you quoted me on other posts but I didn't reply. I only reply to post I think worth replying. “To blame one player is always wrong since it’s a team game.“ Agree, it is always a team game like it is always a team loss. However, my assessment is Jalen is the weakest link, if we swap him with CC, we are already 1:0 against Warriors right now. I believe CC will do a much better job if he was in Jalen's position in the first game. Sadly, this is not going to happen, I can't prove it just like you can't prove CC wouldn't do ****+ against 5 players in the paint.
Somehow Cunningham can drive through 5 players in the paint? I don’t understand what you are saying here. He was 8-21 with 6 TO’s in his first playoff game vs Knicks. That’s not good. My point once again is the 2 teams are built differently with different systems and styles. I think it would be difficult for any scoring guard to play in this system with this team with a 3 and 5 who can’t shoot beyond 12-15 ft in this era of zone/matchup zone basketball. I said nothing about coaches or gm’s wanting who more. That’s not the point of the discussion.
