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The False Analogy of Sexual Orientation and Race

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by padgett316, Mar 5, 2004.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Getting better, but you have been dragging that "Ninteen" in your signature around with you for quite a while, so most of your posts are still not error-free (obviously talking about typos here, as this goes without saying for their content).
     
  2. MacBeth

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    Physics?


    Dissillusioned. Oh, well. Nothing good can last forever.


    Actually, while it was anathema when younger, I have been doing a lot of reading up on Physics, Newton in particular in the past few years, and am developing a growing appreciation.


    No longer will I say : 'Well, there must be plebians, lest we have no food, no bridges, nor will our streets be swept!"

    ;)
     
  3. Deckard

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    SJC, you're Professor Somebody or Doctor Somebody, more than likely. You just don't have tenure and, as MacBeth alluded to, it's generally "publish or perish".

    You could also be Instructor Somebody... farther down the totum pole.
     
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  4. AroundTheWorld

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    Thanks. I've never seen MacBeth saying that he really is a professor, not even an assistant professor, so I was just wondering.

    I respect it when people try to teach others. Especially when they really have knowledge. I respect their patience. I would not want to be a teacher or professor because I have no patience. Except with MacBeth.

    By the way, the system is a little different in the US/Canada, it is easier to become a professor. The system in Germany is such that you graduate from university, then you have to write a Ph.D. thesis and normally you work a few years at the university as a T.A./researcher and THEN you have to write another, even fatter book (called "Habilitation") which is like twice a Ph.D. thesis or so, and only THEN you will have hope that you will be called a professor. Therefore, usually, German professors are quite old when they finally get the title, and far removed from real life.

    I like the U.S. system better.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    How does this show illustrate that? Do you think straight people never pretend to be interested or available in people of the opposite sex? Have straight women never pretended to be attracted or appear available to somebody for a drink. Have straight men never tried to turn on the charm for a woman they have no interested in, when they needed a favor something? I know heteros who have. Because someone feigns interest doesn't have any thing to do with sexual orientation.
     
  6. Invisible Fan

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    I think the analogy is off if you compare the frequency of discrimination. The persecution is constant, but a gay person could probably pass off as straight just like a Jewish person trying to get into a Republican country club...It takes a bit of effort, but it isn't impossible. Yes, I am totally serious...

    A gay person can't turn off being gay, but that person can turn off the tells to gay stereotypes and he doesn't have to admit it, just like religion. Therefore, gay people have to ability to rise up in class standings and social hierarchies in bigoted and entrenched societies. Oppressed races didn't/don't have that privilege.
     
  7. Deckard

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    SJC, it's a courtesy to call an assistant or associate professor, "professor". Becoming a full professor is a very big deal. I don't know if B-Bob is one (although his jokes make me think he is!), and I can't speak for MacBeth. I can tell you, though, that becoming a full professor takes several years, usually, and a doctorate. And publishing.
     
  8. AroundTheWorld

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    Only a courtesy? An assistant professor is a professor, no? :confused:

    Isn't tenure more about protection from being fired, higher salary, and other privileges?
     
  9. Deckard

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    Of course. I think we miscommunicated. "Courtesy" was the wrong word for me to use. You had said that it was easier to become a professor here than in a country like Germany (and I don't know one way or the other), and I was trying to point out that there were professors and there were professors.

    And they come in a wide range of races and sexual orientations! :p
     
  10. AroundTheWorld

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    Thanks for bringing us back on topic ;).

    I agree with you, the main difference is only that at least you get the title "Professor" more easily in the US - in Germany, people are often just "assistants" until they are 40 or so! That's somewhat silly.
     
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    When will the madness end?


    :D
     
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    Excellent find. Nobody can beat Ace and Gary off......the dribble. :D
     
  13. Nolen

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    padgett316,

    You're a bigot and a hypocrite.
     
  14. Sane

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    - Why don't you want to have kids?

    - I see the problem. But what does Juddaism have to say about homosexual sex?

    This question's to everyone,

    Is there some empirical evidence that gays have more sex-related sicknesses than straught people? Also, is there any empirical evidence that gays have been more tormented in their childhood than straight people?


    If everyone turned gay, procreation would stop and everyone would eventually die right? Does that send off some bells in your head? Obviously, not everyone will turn gay, but where does it end, what ratio of gay to straight people is the maximum until the population of earth is in danger?

    Another thing: There is empirical evidence that the percentage of women is increasing among the population, and the same goes for gays. So at some point, a lot of women won't be getting the "satisfaction" they need in a "proper" way. As in, there will be a humongous shortage of straight men, and there will be mroe women in need of sexual satisfaction, prompting a lot more of them to become hookers or whatever, right?

    Has this stuff ever crossed your minds?
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    Attempting to answer your questions:

    Well if everyone turned gay there are still artificial ways to come with pregnancy so I'm not really worried about that. The fact that more women are being born is a matter of pure chance. It's 50/50 every new birth.

    The world is currently over populated, so if nations start slowing down with baby making, then I'm all for it.

    Hookers usually don't become hookers in search of sexual satisfaction.

    If more women are being born along with more gay people, then that probably means that more gay women are being born, so any shortage in straight men might not be that big of a deal.
     
  16. Sane

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    Ahh, so you're assuming that people are BORN gay? If so, then we probably won't agree on most points.

    Hookers don't usually become that for satisfaction, but it will BECOME usual if women get less and less sex. A fact of life is that humans need sex, and if women aren't getting it properly, they'll go to the emergency plan.
     
  17. outlaw

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    so if lack of sex makes straight women become hookers
    what "causes" straight men and women to become gay in your warped world view?

    i would think guys like you would encourage women to be undersexed. would make it a hell of a lot easier for you to get laid.
     
  18. Sane

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    Absolutely hilarious outlaw. Just that fact that you've gotten laid gives everyone in the world hope that women don't need to be undersexed for a guy to get some action.

    I don't know what causes men and women to become gay because I haven't realy researched it or anything. But I'm guessing it's some sort of childhood trauma or just desperation.
     
  19. outlaw

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    no trauma or desperation here, sorry try again.
     
  20. Sane

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    Like I said, I'm no expert. Just guessing.
     

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