70,000 people would fit into one smallish NFL Stadium for a game on Sunday. Saying that massive crowd was 70,000 is an insult to one’s intelligence. The Rose Bowl hold 100,000 and this crowd was many many times what would fit in the Rose Bowl. 70,000. What a joke! This is the same thing they did to the Ron Paul Restore The Republic march on DC back June 12th 2008. We had some 15-20 thousand people, and all the news kept saying we had maybe 1 or 2 thousand. DC cops estimated I think 11 or 12 thousand, but that didn’t stop CNN MSNBC Fox etc from lying. I’m just glad that more people are seeing now how the major news media will do anything and everything they can to lie, discredit us, and make it look like we are marginal or do not exist. People wondered why Ron Paul supporters were so amazingly passionate — at least part of the reason is we were outraged at the media constantly lying about us and about Ron Paul. Instead of just turning over and going home in apathy, we let the media’s lies feed our outrage to to keep coming back, bigger and better. AND I'm not a Styx fan so get that clear.
So, do you have a better methodology for estimating crowd size than the DC fire and police departments? Please share it with us without any of the nonsense about the size of football stadiums. The fire and police department have a lot of experience at estimating crowd sizes, so please give something more substantial than your opinion regarding the crowd size. Your opinion is particularly suspect if you were actually IN the crowd since it is nearly impossible to estimate the size of a crowd if you are in the middle of it.
Don't you love this stuff? It's comical. No, no, no, Andy - the fire and police department are obviously in cahoots with the vast media conspiracy!!! (carefully note that styx has included fox news in the conspiracy, as even their slimy network of half-truth propogation could not jusitfy claims above 70k - truly this conspiracy is awe-inspiring in its magnitude. I'm guessing it's the work of the illuminati.)
This cat can’t even get his facts right about the crowd size and we’re supposed to think he has a cognizant beef with the government? whew!!!
You may need to have your glasses prescription adjusted. If you don't have glasses, you may need them. You may be suffering from double, triple, or the extremely rare, quintuple vision. You definitely suffer from political myopia.
You're right, there's a joke here, but it's not the crowd estimate (I'll give you a hint: it rhymes with "Styx"). Just to clear the air, here's where the false "2,000,000" report came from: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=8558055 What a surprise: a right-winger LIED about ABC news reporting the crowd size, then retracted his statement after the fact. Even he describes the ABC news estimate of 60-70,000 as accurate, calling their coverage "fair and honest". Oh, and just for fun: here's a visual representation of the difference between 70,000 and 2,000,000. As someone said, ""It's like confusing Vermont with Texas." See if you can tell them apart. http://pbump.net/912.html
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.... That's crossing the line, buddy. I would advise you to choose your words carefully when posting on this forum. We disagree a lot, but we don't tolorate that kind of thing here.
Debating with someone like STIX is impossible; all you can feasibly do is belittle him and hope he goes away.
Man, estimating crowd sizes based on football stadiums and rock concerts. This is going nowhere fast.
C'mon, don't be a Renegade. Come Sail Away with us to the land of teabagger fantasies. Whether you're a Blue Collar Man or Miss America, or just a Babe named Lorelei, you can live the life you've always wanted. Don't believe The Grand Illusion that the left-wingers are peddling! You don't need a Crystal Ball to see that these aren't The Best of Times and that we're living on Borrowed Time. Just grab an "Obama Is Hitler" sign and Show Me The Way to the tea party. I hope they Don't Let It End before I get there!
I don't pretend to be someone I'm not. One of the best bands I must say but not really my taste of music so I wouldn't label myself as a fan as most of this hardcore fans out there. I really hope you decide to wear yours soon enough so, you can see passed the image of the man they put on stage that you see daily on your TV. That not so long ago promised us all Change. NEVER did they say this type of change. Give me some actual evidence tell me how much of a change and progress have I seen ever since this administration took over.. Please proof me wrong so I can put my hope in the hands on our goverment since of course THEY ALWAYS know what's better for us. I have become so frustrated with the idiots who can’t see the powers behind the political show that I sort of hope something occurs where the smart will live and the idiots/sheep will perish. It amazes me how dumb’d down people are. You have people continuing to argue left vs right. I’m not sure if the elite pump both sides just like they funded both sides of the war, letting them battle it out, however, knowing that either way it goes, their plan is implemented. If you look at Bush and Obama. While it’s the same policy, it’s sort of different in ways. However, both roads lead to the same place. I think the main difference between the two is that Bush was geared toward a fascist regime through militaristic action and stripping our liberties by taking a Guliani approach, “you are either with us, or with the terrorist”. Which is Bush’s stance anyhow, but the quote is Guliani. Whereas Obama, he’s going to crash the economy and introduce the slavery through that route. Although, as people’s dissent continues to grow, worlds perception changes, etc…so does their plan in my opinion. And with regards to this racial tension, it’s as lildezil said, it’s a just to cause more division among the people, which is why I encourage people not to get caught up in this trap, nor to attack others for having a different opinion. People must remember, we are (for the most part) on the same team. No reason to fight amongst each other! What I don’t get is with all the people that work at those corporate media outlets, why are they not seeing the lies that their bosses are pushing? These people that work their are educated and should have some level of smarts or at lest some basic common since, but to continue to work at these places with no integrity and or at lest expose the one way, bogus corporate government supported stories just kills me. Today, the rivers current of propaganda and information is overwhelming the waves of truth. The mainstream propaganda media machine Is there to protect the false reality created by the neocon. Good thing its breaking down. As things progressively get worse as we get deeper into this depression the more Sheople will wake up. This is only the beginning.. You think Americans are pissed off now just wait... You tell me what media is telling the truth. There were a minimum of 300,000 people attending. Who is reporting this? NBC, ACB, CBS. They are so slanted as well as Fox. You must praise government as a “great entity” that will fix all our problems? The liberty movement is reaching out to all of Beck’s followers, and waking them up. 9/12 is probably a plan to get more support for the republicans so that the republicans can win the congress back, but its not going to work, people are finally breaking out of the left/right paradigm. Liberty will take over 9/12 and the neocons attempt to hijack this movement. This is about Freedom, the Constitution, and saving the Republic, limiting the Federal Government’s power, not left right BS! Vote third party in 2010! Research your candidates and vote for the guy who is not a corporate puppet! Dont vote Republicrat! Beck is a big fraud. He has co-opted the Tea Party movement. When the Tea Parties went on while bush was in office, he was belittling the patriots. He’s BS. It was a quick example. Here's a little more accurate reasonable count. A comparison http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2339366/posts http://www.stealthfusion.com/forum/...ton-vs-usa-today-national-mall-schematic.html
