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The Facts and Fictions of Tea Partying

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Sep 19, 2009.

  1. rimrocker

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    Part 3 starts out with Beck going to Baltimore...

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/23/glenn_beck_three/print.html
     
  2. rhadamanthus

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    Yes, positive or negative. There's really no difference, so everyone talking about him is giving him exactly what he wants. Even negative attention gets him ratings. Sometimes moreso than positive attention.

    Just like all the other talk-radio HACKS, he's laughing all the way to the bank. Hell, this whole teaparty shtick is probably just a prank to get ratings. Obviously, it's working as most people had no idea who he was a year ago.

    Classy. But par for the course.

    I didn't know this either, but I DO know that he used to have a show on 950 here in Houston. Only reason I know this is because it used to come on right before Phil Hendrie.

    It was a political show with kind of a 'morning zoo' type feel to it. In other words, it was totally lame.

    He even used to try and copy Phil Hendrie's act of having fake callers call in with outlandish opinions, only he would have (bad) actors do it whereas Phil would do it (brilliantly) by himself. Phil actually called him out for trying (in vein) to lift his act.

    Dude is a complete loser. I don't know how he even pulls a paycheck, to be honest.

    Sincerely,

    A conservative who absolutely LOATHES political talk radio
     
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  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Honestly, this seems to underline a big political divide in the nation. Emotional logic versus logic logic. People like thumbs, it seems, have a "gut" feeling about things, and Fox News is the only outlet that supports the gut feeling, data be damned.

    Arguing about facts is a really senseless exercise with the teabagging crowd. I'm now pretty convinced, and I wasn't convinced of that even days ago.
     
  5. rimrocker

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    I have this sense... I guess you could call it a gut feeling... that you are correct, but I'm not sure. Perhaps if you found an angrier, louder, and more histrionic way to make your point, I might be more certain about what my feelings are telling me to think. That's my sense of things anyway.
     
  6. Rashmon

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    If thumbs can get one of you guys to attend the next tea party event, whether out of a sense of political sympaticos, or just to watch the nutjobs scream, he has accomplished his goal.

    The "movement" has grown. See all those people?

    Propaganda 101
     
  7. ghettocheeze

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    Even as conservative-libertarian, I can't get behind the fools with this tea party nonsense. Its one thing to protest against government abuse, waste and fraud, but the tone of this movement is more towards anarchy. Where were these people when Bush abused all his powers and destroyed what his predecessors had created?
     
  8. Ottomaton

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisdom_of_repugnance

    [rquoter]
    Wisdom of repugnance

    The term wisdom of repugnance, or the "yuck factor", describes the belief that an intuitive (or "deep-seated") negative response to some thing, idea or practice should be interpreted as evidence for the intrinsically harmful or evil character of that thing. Furthermore, it refers to the notion that wisdom may manifest itself in feelings of disgust towards anything which lacks goodness or wisdom, though the feelings or the reasoning of such 'wisdom' may not be immediately explicable through reason.

    [/rquoter]

    It seems to me that there are tons of people who seem to only place their faith in this, and its inverse (I guess, the wisdom of attraction?). I really don't understand it. Such slavish devotion to simplistic reptilian automatic responses seems like such a simple and obvious fallacy; the first thing you should understand on the far side of puberty.
     
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  9. STIX

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    9/12/09 will go down in history as the day America said, ENOUGH!!!! I wish I could have been there.

    Though I am NO FAN of Fox News, if they hadn’t covered the event it would not have been reported on AT ALL.

    At least a half million people were there but you would not have known that if you had watched ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC etc. But even Fox got the STORY itself wrong as did most of the media who reported on it.

    This was NOT an anti-Obama rally. This is about people from across the entire political spectrum waking up the fact that we have been systematically lied to by BOTH PARTIES and we have had ENOUGH OF THIS BS…!!!

    Ya'll are making the same mistake that the major media is making by seeing these events through the prism of left/right ideology.

    The “Tea Party” events that I have been to have drawn people from across the political spectrum. Some politicians and members of the media HAVE tried to co-opt this growing sentiment but, like you, they don’t really understand just what is behind the anger that is being expressed. Again, people ARE WAKING UP.

    Americans are the best people on earth, and those that came to DC 9/12 are some of the best in the world.

    Now, the bad guys can spit on my boot…if you think you can get away with it.
     
  10. rimrocker

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    Doubtful.

    Wrong.

    Ptooie.
     
  11. mc mark

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    thumbs do you agree with STIX?
     
  12. aghast

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    <object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/AtzIWPeun7c&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/AtzIWPeun7c&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>

    Fixed.

    Most reliable estimates put it at 60,000-70,000 attendees, which is still a decent turnout, but let's not go crazy here.

    Perhaps someone else will oblige your particular fetish.
     
  13. Rashmon

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    I would be curious to know the answer myself. thumbs?
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    They did more than cover. They tried to orchestrate it. They tried to manufacture the news.

    Here is a clip of a Fox News Producer trying to incite the crowd to be more animate.

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  15. Deckard

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    FOX have you on a retainer?
     
  16. DonnyMost

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    I want to print this out and take it to a birther/teaparty rally...

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  17. rhadamanthus

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    I wonder if anyone has ever been teabagged but then all like the dude had a gun tucked in his crotch and the teabagged person just got a gun but not like that gun all in their face lolz.
     
  19. aghast

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    Well, per the article above, they're all shooting blanks anyway, right?
     
  20. GladiatoRowdy

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    Did you ignore the CNN video posted in this very thread? CNN covered it with no fewer than four reporters. The other networks covered it similarly.

    Though I agree with what I see to be your principal point, that both parties are in this for their own benefit, I do not believe that the 'bagger rallies have been anything more than events sponsored and coordinated by Faux "News" and the insurance lobbyists.

    We do need some people in Washington DC to give a voice back to the American people, but the 'bagger rallies are not the vehicle, IMO.

    BTW, there were an estimated 60-70,000 people in that rally as estimated by people who are professionals at that kind of thing, the police and fire departments. They are non partisan and not affiliated with or beholden to either party, so I trust their estimates.

    It is a little difficult for me to accept that these people are just now "WAKING UP," given the issues over the past nine years. If anything should have made these people wake up, it should have been any of the myriad problems in the last administration, not the action that this administration has taken to correct those problems.

    Again, I agree with your premise that we need a voice for the people in DC, but I don't think the 'baggers are the appropriate voice.
     
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