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The Facts and Fictions of Tea Partying

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Sep 19, 2009.

  1. giddyup

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    show me where I defended Thurmond as a racist... I defended Thurmond as not being as great a stain as Hitler was. Sorry couldn't resist!
     
  2. vlaurelio

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    I didn't say you defended Thurmond as a racist
     
  3. Franchise2001

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    As a strong, independent black woman, both myself and my teenage children agree that Thurmond was not, and has never been, a racist. ;)
     
  4. giddyup

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    From earlier:

    Seems like you did.
     
  5. Rashmon

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    Jesus was pretty pragmatic...
    Ghandi was pretty pragmatic...
    Buddha was pretty pragmatic...
    Mohammed was pretty pragmatic...

    I know when I'm trying to make an analogy for pragmatic, I'm thinking Hitler.
     
  6. Rockets2K

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    Guys, would it really hurt you to take all this to another thread like thumbs asked? It really is mainly offtopic in this thread.
     
  7. GladiatoRowdy

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    I agree with thumbs here. If y'all want to go off about Hitler or Thurmond or comparisons to either of them, please do it somewhere else. There are still a few people in here talking about the concerns of the tea partiers (healthcare).
     
  8. vlaurelio

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    I thought this is not a healthcare specific thread but a general tea party thread.. the tea partiers existed because they thought Obama was a socialist, compared him to Hitler, and called him a liar on whether illegal immigrants will be covered in the healthcare reform..
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    Well, I would argue that 2-3 posters arguing about Thurmond and Hitler have nothing whatsoever to do with the tea parties. In addition, for the last three pages, these posts have had nothing new and are "he-said, she-said" drivel.

    Thumbs posted in the OP that racists are not allowed in his group and I believe him until he gives me a reason to distrust him. If you want to call giddyup a racist and have him say "nuh-uh" over and over again, please start a thread for it.
     
  10. vlaurelio

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    I know, how did we get to Thurmond and Hitler?

    Because someone acted like he doesn't "no" Joe Wilson's background

     
  11. thumbs

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    Good catch v. Sometimes that's the problem with switching back and forth between texting and typing. As far as the rest is concerned, judging from your written thoughts, we all wish we could walk in your shoes. Unfortunately, nobody has feet that small.
     
  12. vlaurelio

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    why do you keep on calling me names? you feel you can do that to me because I'm a minority?
     
  13. Deckard

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    Just an FYI... so is thumbs. We're all becoming "minorities" in this state. Carry on. :)
     
  14. thumbs

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    Well, I have never called you any names, but, even so, yours implies that we share the same ethnicity. Anyway, I only pick on you because you tend to be very persnickity and therefore beg for little repartees. However, i apologize for your shortcomings. Let's get back to the topic at hand about 5 p.m. I'm really swamped but I just peeked in to see what was happening.
     
  15. vlaurelio

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    well you have.. you act like you know me..

    you act like you're above it all but you're worse than basso, tj, and bigtexxx

    at least they have the balls to call out people explicitly..

    you play b**** games.. just simply I don't agree with you you characterize my posts as something bad but you can't specify what it is..

    and stop comparing yourselves with the boston tea party

    the boston tea party was up against a foreign colonial power.. so you teabaggers are actually closer to birthers more than anything else..
     
  16. Ottomaton

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    The "But my best friend is black!" defense. The next step would be to tell us all how articulate he is.
     
  17. thumbs

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    I will admit to your bravery, v. You come to a duel of wits unarmed.
     
  18. Depressio

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    There are so many things I do not understand. Perhaps it's because I'm dense, young, devoutly unpolitical, and care little about the past in compared to the present. Anyway, I wanted somewhere to post this, and this seemed like a decent candidate. My apologies if it's unrelated in any facet:

    (1) Why are they calling it a tea party? Frankly, there's no tea, nor a figurative "tea", nor a tax on this figurative "tea" (which doesn't exist). Basically, it's a "tea party" against a non-existent tax on a figurative "tea." At least that's what I see.

    (2) Why are people labeling each other so much? A person thinks the way they think. It is unnecessary to label them a liberal, conservative, Republican or Democrat, and frankly, I think it's a complete waste of time and breath. I loathe people who just toss out labels instead of actually discussing things.

    (3) Why are people suspicious of a public option? If executed correctly, I don't see a problem with it; the competition will lower the prices, making it affordable to a larger audience. I suppose the "correctly" is the point of contention still. The only problem I can see is that it might be the cheapest option (keyword: OPTION) and most companies/people will switch to it, bankrupting the existing companies. Again, pricing effectively and competitively can prevent this.

    Those are the main ones, I guess (I had more things to put, but wasting time at work is not a good idea right now). It's all confusing why people waste so much time on such unimportant things (arguing racism, tossing out labels, disagreeing for political reasons, etc.) while the more important things (actually implementing bi-partisan reform) are mostly undiscussed.
     
  19. thumbs

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    Kudos, you may be young but you are hardly dense. These are salient observations. Let's discuss this after 5 p.am.
     
  20. Depressio

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    Haha, I just posted something similar. From what I can recall, the Boston Tea Party was a movement against taxes (ridiculous ones) already levied on the goods. This "tea party" movement we're talking about isn't really protesting any taxes whatsoever, because frankly, there haven't been any. The similarities vex me.

    Sometimes I just see politicians or political folks just throw out terms like "patriotism" or "true American" as if it gives their argument any more clout. Similarly, it seems they're calling this movement a "tea party," trying to make it more historical or impactful than it really is.
     

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