I already did. Put and end to the fake filibuster and the government immediately reopens without threat of a future shutdown as long as the government isn't divided. The DACA issue is completely separate, and I would agree that they should work towards a compromise there....just with the government open. IMO a good compromise is the return of DACA along with border wall funding and the end of chain migration. Taking away chain migration would be a disincentive for future illegal immigration. If you add in a physical border, it might become more trouble than it is worth. Everyone wins.
Who is "they"? The same "they" who had Clinton leading in all the polls by a large margin prior to the election? When you say "Americans as a whole", I guess you mean 29%. https://morningconsult.com/2017/11/09/polling-shows-waning-enthusiasm-congressional-action-dreamers/ I guarantee you the American people are overwhelmingly against DACA.
This Trumpanzee technique is so tired and old. Who are "they" that say the world is round? The same "they" who had Clinton leading in all the polls? Who are "they" that say global warming is not a Chinese hoax? The same "they" who had Clinton leading in all the polls? Who are "they" that say coal is a dead industry? The same "they" who had Clinton leading in all the polls? Who are "they" that say trickle down doesn't work? The same "they" who had Clinton leading all the polls? *BORING*
First of all "they" didn't have Clinton leading by large margins. Most of the polls had her leading but the result was within the margin of error. Furthermore, Clinton did get more votes than Trump so in that way it also matched the polls. I mean Americans as a whole as almost 9 out of 10 Americans want Dreamers to stay. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-in-10-favor-allowing-daca-recipients-to-stay This is another poll showing the majority want Dreamers to stay https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/05/poll-trump-deporting-daca-dreamers-242343 Will this reference help you understand that Americans want dreamers to stay? http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/americans-back-daca-huge-margin-poll/story?id=50032985 Here's one from the Brookings Institute and it references that a majority of Trump supporters want the Dreamers to stay. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixg...rump-supporters-want-dreamers-to-stay-in-u-s/
Another tired Trumpanzee technique. Find some website, any website (if it's on the internetz it must be true) that backs up my stupid opinion and then declare it valid.
I do prefer a clean DACA bill, one that isn't slipped into law through the confines of another bill that is completely unrelated. I also prefer a well debated and discussed, fair and compromised DACA bill that both parties are content with. I think that compromise should include 2 things. 1. Dreamers stay/Amnesty 2. A legitimate system to curb Illegal Immigration going into the future Democrats wont even have the discussion right now. Trump even extended DACA to have the discussion. Right now they are holding the American citizens hostage by trying to force an un-agreed, un compromised DACA protocol in a completely unrelated bill that unfortunately, if not passed shuts the government down.
Republicans slipped removal of the Obamacare mandate in a tax bill. They both do this crap all the time.
Yeah but that's not shutting down the government over a disagreement on immigration policy now is it?
If the Dems give in... Who's to say the Reps would even think about the DACA discussion? Also the Reps, would love for them to discuss the DACA down the road, that would give them leverage to get the money for the wall... Both sides are playing politics no matter what either of them says. T_Man
They might not. You just have to ask yourself if it is worth it to keep the government shut down till you get your way on DACA or if it's not worth it and you'll just end up caving anyway after your lockout goes longer than you want it to. When the Republicans shut down the government in 2013 over Obamacare reform, they thought that issue was important enough to shut down the government....but they ended up caving anyway. I can't imagine Democrats thinking DACA is more important than Republicans thought Obamacare reform was. So while you can say that this is "both sides playing politics" and that is true, there's only one side that decided to shut down the government and that's the Democrats and they need to own that decision. If DACA is worth it, there's no reason not to own the decision and certainly no reason to lie about it.
You literally just answered your own question. Reps want a DACA discussion because immigration is broken. Trump doesn't want to kick the DACA's out, thats why he extended it to give more time. What he wants more than not kicking DACA's out though is less illegal immigration. I think the republicans are down for one more full out amnesty, provided the other part of the deal is curbing illegal immigration going into the future. Thats why it didn't work under Reagen, illegal immigration never stopped after amnesty. Now to republicans that could be just 'the wall' or it could be something else- but it needs to be some sort of system they feel guarantee's a major drop off in illegal immigration. and a deal like that benefits all Americans, current DACA's- everyone currently on American soil. problem is dems do not want illegal immigration to stop, they want it to continue forever for votes.
Again, Senator Diane Feinstein did propose a clean DACA bill. And trump initially agreed. Then changed his mind or position. Something trump seems to do often, as congressional leaders of both parties found out. http://theweek.com/speedreads/74781...an-daca-bill-from-transcript-calls-accidental And... Democrats have agreed to a bipartisan bill that includes funding of border security that includes physical structures, electronic surveillance, and other security measures. That also includes fixing chain migration and other loopholes. And DACA. But trump, urged by Miller, Cotton, and other extremists has moved away from this. So if you truly want a comprehensive and bipartisan solution, you should blame trump et al, since Democrats have already agreed... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-back-bipartisan-immigration-bill-graham-says https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ting_in_good_faith_only_one_deal_in_town.html
Tammy Duckworth tears Cadet Bone Spurs a new one... Duckworth slams Trump: I won't be lectured on military needs by a 'five-deferment draft dodger' http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...by-a-five-deferment?__twitter_impression=true
This knuckle dragger has no room to speak, she voted for the government to shut down, she can't blame ANYONE else for that.
Lol. Didn’t trump disband his voter inquiry.... And you were saying about Dems needing illegals? Lol, what nonsense. Dems need voters to turn out and the GOP needs voters to stay in.
