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The Economist on Houston: Life in the Sprawl

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  1. Mr. Clutch

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    How so? We're more diverse
     
  2. GanjaRocket

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    Bureaucratic oil town texas barely removed from the Bible Era still caught in mar1juana prohibition


    Or silicon valley.. cutting edge everything
     
  3. nono

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    Doesn't really have the feel of a big city because you need a car to get around. There isn't really anything better for a city than a good subway system because you have a feeling of energy and spontaneity. NYC and SF are the only places I've been in the US where I felt that.
     
  4. GanjaRocket

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    This. Car culture creates an environment of isolation.

    Then we go home to our sprawling burbs and meet the same people over and over again. It's really hard to get into random fun. Or meet random people just going about your daily routines by yourself or with friends. Going to bars and midtown doesn't count.
     
  5. nono

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    I lived around the Temple University area so not really Center City. I am sure if I was in Center City my experience would have been much better. It was really polluted. Lots of litter on the streets in Philly.
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    That's very simplistic. Practically the whole country is still caught in mar1juana prohibition.

    We have cutting edge energy and healthcare. Just naming one industry in SF (which Austin is competing with BTW) doesn't win anything.

    SF is too regulated, too many taxes, too pricey.

    There is nothing Bible era about this place. Are you thinking of Alabama? Are you sure you live here?
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    Houston inner loop has grown a lot. Not just midtown but Heights, Montrose, Downtown, uptown, garden oaks. You'd be correct in the 90's.
     
  8. nono

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    Yep, that's the best way to put it.
     
  9. GanjaRocket

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    Oil is not cutting edge. sorry, fracking doesn't count.

    Healthcare is excellent.. Def cutting edge, but still an uncreative environment for that industry.

    Austin has SF potential if the laws allowing free, creative expression are relaxed. Without the regulation and taxes


    A church bought the freaking Compaq center.. in the best area in the city. Bible Era
     
  10. GanjaRocket

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    Big oil, big religion, big pharma..

    Yuck
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    There's more than just oil in energy. Have you heard of renewables? Or demand response? Or LNG?

    And who cares if there's a church. I bet theres a church in sf. Compaq was pretty much a dump, not a state of the art new facility.

    Also, Cali sucks for the poors:

    If we think about, what are the best cities in the United States, particularly for the poor, it’s places like Houston, which have no zoning and which have very easy regulatory systems in which you can build. You can get a permit to build within a matter of days, compared to New York where you’ve got to go through a dozen different permitting processes and you have to hire specialized people whose only job is really to stand in line to help you get through the process….So, people of modest means can still buy a house in Houston. And they can’t do that in many other places in the United States because of zoning and not-in-my-backyard rules, a kind of secession of the rich, not in terms of gated communities but in terms of adding on rules and restrictions on how large your lot has to be in order to build a house, how many people can live in the house etc. All of these things have made it extremely expensive to buy in any of these cities, which use more top down planning. - See more at: http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2015/03/houston-v-california.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+marginalrevolution%2Ffeed+%28Marginal+Revolution%29#sthash.NIroabdj.dpuf
     
  12. GanjaRocket

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    Pros, cons.. houston is great in ways, sucks in others..

    No where to go but up (literally, I hope) unless global warming drowns us.

    Let's keep the cons in mind as we build the next Gen texas triangle
     
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    Creating unhackable smart appliances that work with demand response is an area in which a decentralized value transfer/intent indicator network will shine... the backbone for the IoT
     
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    Can't just resentfully affix the word "big" to any industry as a rhetorical means of undercutting and negating its financial productivity, technical innovation and integral operational and economic role in modern society. And I don't know what planet you're on to assume that religion isn't a factor everywhere. There may be more diversification based on cultural variety and abundance of nuclear families; but class-neutral, extra-governmental educational, hospital and charity work is often backstopped by local, entrenched community congregations.
     
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    True.. but when a city's lifeblood is these 3 industries then the culture reflects that. Just making a point. It has its pros and cons as with everything and everywhere
     
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    The cons that come with oil corps, megachurches, and traditional pharma digging their claws into everything are generally what ails society as a whole
     
  17. nono

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    For me though, it has little to do with Industry. Programming is not sexier than oil really. The fact of the matter is though that you will never see tourists coming to Houston in droves like they do to SF, NYC, LA and Miami.It just an extremely ugly city in general. Most of the tourists I've met here don't even have a lot of money. So the fact that they put their savings into coming here speaks a lot.
     
  18. GanjaRocket

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    Industry + physical attributes create the total vibe
     
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    That said houston has some nice Vistas if you look for them. The trees are great too
     
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    This ignorant thinking is in-line with every out-of-towner coming around, running their mouth and talking down. They don't know about.
     

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