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The Dragon VS Shogun part 2

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by El Hitman, May 3, 2010.

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  1. Chamillionaire

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    this is great. never seen that before.
     
  2. Wakko67

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    It really isn't 1-1. Lyoto lost the first fight too. I don't see the point of a rematch. Shogun looked good. He got a few hits in before the ones that finished the fight. I do agree about the match up being good for him. I don't know if other fighters are good match ups for him.

    As far as Rampage goes, I think he'll beat evans without too much trouble. I also think the Rampage we saw before the meltdown was better than the Pride version so it'll be interesting to see how he does if he fights Rua.

    All thats left is Dana to quit being a b**ch and let Anderson destroy his golden boy GSP. After that let The Spider go for the LHW title.
     
  3. King1

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    I agree with all of this
     
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    Daley's a little b****.

    UK fighters are pro trash talkers, then get dominated once they're in the cage.

    Shogun is beast.
     
  5. Wakko67

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    Daley did pull a punk move, but you have to admit Koscheck's stunt was Jazz-esque. Give Sloan that guy's number!
     
  6. Smokey

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    Props to Dana White for cutting Kimbo.

    Kimbo may be a nice guy, but he's garbage. Trying to sell him to viewers would be more about money (i.e., banking on his internet fame) than competition.
     
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    I agree too, but do we really want Silva doing the same thing in LHW that he's doing now? He's already going crazy from the lack of competition at 185 you kinda feel bad for him (and pissed at him too though) after watching his fight with Maia. Who at 205 besides Shogun could take him? He won't fight Machida and Rampage/Evans will have a title shot already.
     
  8. Wakko67

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    I want to see him fight GSP because GSP needs to move up a class since there seems to be no competition for him in his current one. Plus it would kill all the best fighter in the world talk.

    At 205, I think Shogun would give him a fight. I also think Rampage would be fun to watch with him. I don't think Evans would do much against Spider though. Thiago Alves could be another interesting one. The LHW has so many good match ups that it would be hard to go wrong with him there. I think he'd be better challenged than fighting the guys at middleweight.

    Then again, he did say he wanted to fight Brock Lesnar. Crazy as that sounds, I still woudn't count him out. :eek:
     
  9. KingCheetah

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    That fight reminded of me of the second fight between Tarver v. Roy Jones Jr. Tarver's trainer told him to 'go get yours' after the first round - he meant go knock him out don't leave it to the judges again. Brutal KO by Rua.
     
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    Agreed, I've hated Koscheck for a while now.

    I'm not surprised Dana is cutting Daley, but I don't understand why he is cutting Kimbo. He's 1-1, I think he deserves at least one more fight, and although he may not be a great fighter, he's still a huge draw.
     
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    He's cutting him because in his two fights he has looked like a total fool. The Houston Alexander fight was atrocious with both men looking like 50 year old men who had waged a 60 minute war. This fight against Mitrione was an embarrassment. Kimbo was gassed after 2 minutes and was totally unable to defend himself.

    Besides, who after Mitrione is there for Kimbo to go gas himself against next? He just lost to the bottom of the heavyweight division and was made to look like a fool in the process. He's better off crushing cans in some lower level independent promotion somewhere. He can't hang with real fighters.
     
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    Eh...

    One of the main reasons Silva is able to do what he does at MW is his size. He is incredibly long and is not a natural middleweight. He's just bigger than basically everybody he fights with a significant reach advantage. At LHW that is negated to an extent and I would be much more interested in seeing him fight guys who are big enough to actually get shots off at him without putting their whole face within reach of his elbow.
     
  13. Smokey

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    I guess Dana could have kept Kimbo, but taken him off the main card until he could prove himself. That would satisfy the Kimbo fans and give real fighters a chance to be showcased.

    This fight still cracks me up:

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    Take him off the main card and fight who? Mitrione was only on the main card because he was a low level semi-can being fed to Kimbo to give him a legit shot at winning. Kimbo got embarrassed. There really isn't anyone lower than Mitrione for Kimbo to fight in a prelim.
     
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    I thought the same thing too when he faced Griffin. Of course in the grand scheme of LHW Griffin is small potatoes, but his build/reach would certainly be typical of a man in that weight class. And Silva picked him apart, almost surgically and made Griffin not want to fight anymore, someone who supposedly had warrior will.

    Of course the better fighters in the class will make it much more of a sport: Shogun definitely and Rampage/Rashad probably. It's a matter of how good their boxing is, because Silva's so dodgy and can get pinpoint shots in.
     
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    To be clear I'm not saying Silva won't be good at LHW. Heck he might be unbeatable at LHW. We won't know until he moves up. What I'm saying is it's almost unfair at middleweight because on top of his tremendous skill he has pretty significant natural size advantages.
     
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    what exactly happened here?
     
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    What is the BIG DEAL about KIMBO??


    I dont get it .... he gets his ass beat .. wait SLAUGHTER/MURDER/FKED UP everytime i've seen him fight! :confused:
     
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    Nothing is the big deal with Kimbo. He doesn't belong in the ufc and I'm glad he was cut, coming purely from he just can't hang with the heavies in the ufc. I couldn't stand the thought of the guy before his season on tuf. That being said I learned to appreciate him as a person while on tuf, just don't think he belongs in the UFC
     
  20. Wakko67

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    The problem is that you can say the same thing for GSP. Move him up and see how he fares. Give him Marquardt.

    I don't see too many people beating Spider at 205. Rampage probably has the best shot with Shogun being the second best. Evans, IMO, has no chance. Alves could give him a nice run too. Machida would be another guy, but we already know about that.
     

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