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The Draft and Carl Landry

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jun 23, 2008.

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  1. rterry

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    Thanks. I now understand your opinion. I will paraphrase: if we can't sign Landry quickly for less than the mle, then be willing to let him walk and pursue other FA's. If we sign another FA for less than the MLE then we offer Landry what's left and he takes it great, if not, so be it. Fair enough opinion.

    I disagree vehemently, however. There is absolutely no way in the world we can get a Maggette or an Artest for MLE money. That is an absolute dream. Of all the free agents I have seen that will demand MLE or less money, none are as good as Landry was last year and that is not factoring in his upside which I think is substantial. The only argument that a FA that will sign for the MLE or less is more valuable than Landry is if his knees are just too shaky. That I will have to leave to those that have the medical information to go on.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Swift turned down a larger contract to sign for the MLE here......it does happen.

    I am sure you would have diagreed vehemetly that the Lakers could have gotten Gasol for Kwame too, right?

    Strange things happen my man...strange things happen....

    DD
     
  3. leebigez

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    If it was between 2m for landry vs 2m for Turiaf, I would prefer Rony. I would actually give him more because he can back up the 4 and 5 spots. When he started he avg 2.25 blks which is a bonus. He's a little bigger at 6'10 and 250, very atheletic, and a high energy guy like landry.
     
  4. xiki

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    If it was between 2mm for Turiaf and 4mm for Landry I pay Landry. I do not like Rony. He's an inconsequential thug, perfect for Sloan maybe. :D
     
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    Ditto have to agree with this assesment of Turiaf. There aren't a whole lot of players I"d give up Landry for. Magette or Artest maybe. But that'll never happen.
     
  6. xiki

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    There are lots of players I'd trade almost anyone for, but Turiaf ain't one of'm!
     
  7. leebigez

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    The point that xxii and poprocks are missing is that at 2m or the 2.5m te is that Rony kills 2 birds with 1 stone. Why? He's big enough to backup Yao and atheletic enough to backup the 4 also. U sign him and u can trade hayes and let landry go. He could get 17 mins behind Yao and 14 mins behind Scola. In those 31 mins las season, he was 11 ppg 5.5 rebs and 2.2 blks. That means when Yao goes out, the Rox still have a shot blocker on the floor. When he and yao are on the floor together, now u have 2 shot blockerson the floor. I'm just throwing out scenerios.
     
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    Rockets can't sign him for the 2.5m te. Trade exceptions are for trading only. Lakers trading away Rony to another team in the same conference for a 2.5m te would be great. I hope we can do it, but I don't think it will happen. Sorry, leebigez.
     
  9. W22_STREAK

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    Hopefully we can keep Landry.

    I'd really hate to break "the Scolandry One-Two Punch at PF"
     
  10. saleem

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    I love Scolandry,the true rookie of the year.
     
  11. FLASH21

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    Sorry man I aint tryin to jump on everyones band wagon but landry vs. turiaf is a no brainer. Landry- outside jumper. Turiaf- every know and then. Landry- younger than Turiaf a plus and last but not least correction Mr. Landry did play C when the Rox went small. Oh and also whats one inch on Landry as far as height.
     
  12. xiki

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    I agree. You should throw out your scenario. You have missed your mark like a Hatesian FT.
     
  13. KALIKULI

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    Totally agree with you DD!!! The guy has executed the 07-08' season with big impact for a second round player. Without a doubt, Landry's got game on himself but if like you said if the front office will need to free up some numbers, then i' can really picture Landry on a verge of playing with another team. Sad! But that's the way it should be played. :(
     
  14. Joe Joe

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    I would value Turiaf's extra year in the NBA than Landry's 8 months of extra youth.
     
  15. BrooksBall

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    What a terrible example to use. Absolutely terrible.

    You picked what is already widely considered to be one the most lopsided, bogus trades in NBA history to prove your point.

    The Gasol deal wasn't strange. It was borderline illegal. At the least, totally unethical.

    There is little to no connection between that mockery of a deal and future deals and you know it.

    What were you thinking? Ridiculous.
     
  16. leebigez

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    Before you speak, maybe you should either watch tape or check stats. Turiaf's jumper from 15ft was better than Landry. Landry is 8 mos younger. You're right Landry played center when the Rox went small and the opponet knew it also. In the playoffs, when Deke went out, teams attacked the Rox without mercy because they didnt have a shot blocker. All I'm saying is if you just consider how much a quality backup cost at the 4/5 spot, we're talking about 2m per position. All i'm saying is if you can get a guy that can backup both spots for 31mins and get 11-5.5-2.2, what is that worth? What is it worth when Yao and Ronny is in the game together and u have a weakside shotblocker in Ronny.

    X? Say what you will, but i dont overemphasize a role player like Landry. DD never said that he was for getting rid of landry, he just stated that instead of tying up a certain amount of cash towards him while other fish get away is a mistake. Whatever comments you have, thats ur opinion, but i'm willing to bet i have more basketball games on my hard drives than you probably have watched in your life. I bet i can write a accurate scouting report on players and gm's would say they're pretty accurate. I'm a Rox fan 1st and foremost, but Landry isnt a guy that u give more than 1.5m-2m per yr to. He struggled when he had a gimpy knee and he was slow to revover. That is something to be considered. I know many want to throw the mle or at least most towards him, well i think that would be a poor decision.
     
  17. sophiander

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    i hope Morey to get rid of Battier for OJ meyo,and then trade with Kings for Ron Artest

    YAO
    SCOLA
    ARTEST
    TMAC
    SF3/OJ
     
  18. FLASH21

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    Look man Im not tryin to undermine your statement. Your basing your opinion on cost and I understand that but I think Landry is going to be better than Turiaf. And thats my opinion. And son I have been watching the Rockets play since I was shi#$%# myself matter of fact I think I still have a video tape of them beating Shaq and Penny for their ring. Damn I cant even watch it any more does anyone have a vcr to loan? ;)
     
  19. hooroo

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    http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2008/06/feeling_a_draft_what_the_rocke.html
    Negotiation over his initial contract, the story on how he is worth $30 million this off-season, now this story... Re-signing Landry doesn't sound like it's going to be a cakewalk for Morey.
     
  20. binvegas

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    Landry is a beast. Some of you undervalue Landry. He will end up starting for us one day. Scola is more of a off the bench hustle player. Right now they compete with each other for minutes which is healthy. If all Landry or Scola had to do if one of them left to compete for minutes was to worry about Mike Harris, or Chuck Hayes then they will probably play more lackadasial considering those guys wont be a threat to take minutes.
     

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