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The Difference Between JVG and Rick Adelman

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by matty101, Dec 1, 2007.

  1. CharlieMurphy

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    Shows how much you know. JVG never celebrates because he's never satisfied!
     
  2. Wimpy Winston

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    When i looked up the tag on the pic it said his reaction in playoff game vs Jazz :(
     
  3. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I could see him looking like that while screaming Goddammit.
     
  4. BlackPowder

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    stop your whining. Adelman>>>Van Gundy. Rick's record speaks for itself. 18 freaking games into the season omfg. the number of posters acting so freaking emotional and girlish after every single game is unbelievable. having said that this team will definately make it past the first round this year.
     
  5. matty101

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    Please, look at your number post and your status.

    Once you have done that.

    Shut up.
     
  6. ktvoss

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    Yeah you can talk all that JVG talk but we never got out the first round, season doesn't mean nothing bottom line is we have a bunch of little boys on this team that needs to be babied that's BS all around the board. The players on this team need to man up and play hard on the court they have the freedom to do so. Either way if you have JVG literally telling you everything to do you won't win due to facing teams that already know what to do without the coaches babying them and you have the freedom to do what you naturally do under Adelman but you lack the heart and fire you still won't win. It's the players on this team and it starts with Tracy and Yao.
     
  7. wingz0

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    It starts with Tracy and Yao, but after them, who? No one else stepped up tonight.

    Right now the offense is looking like a lot of freelancing, and Tracy and Yao can do that because they are so damned good. But the rest of the guys aren't, and it shows right now.

    I wasn't thrilled about the Adelman hiring back then, and he sure hasn't shown me anything to prove me wrong now, even when we were 6-1, what I saw was still sloppy play.
     
  8. rocket tar

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    wow you have more posts. that means i need to respect your opinion more.
     
  9. Will

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    Wow. That little prefect complex didn't take long to develop.

    Opinions around here will be judged by their quality.
     
  10. Rocket River

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    . . . . . Actually
    I have revised my position . . back to my ORIGINAL POSITION

    I don't give a crap about the Regular Season

    It is all about the Playoffs

    If we don't make the playoffs. . i'm UBER PISSED
    If we lost in he 1st round I am PISSED


    Second Round or Bust
    just like last year

    Regular season will be rough
    it is about learning

    Rocket River
     
  11. poprocks

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    This is starting to sound familiar. Look at this 2004 article from the Sacremento Bee
    http://dwb.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/11277127p-12192349c.html
    Weak defense raises a red flag for Kings
    Aggressive measures might be in order, Bobby Jackson says.
    By Martin McNeal -- Bee Staff Writer
    Published 2:15 am PST Sunday, October 31, 2004

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    Last week, Kings guard Bobby Jackson was asked if the team had a no-layup rule for opposing teams, and he said he hoped so.
    After watching Sacramento's last two preseason games, Jackson should be ready to implore his teammates to adopt a philosophy in which layups and dunks are prevented by aggressive fouls.


    The Kings, who open the regular season Tuesday night at Dallas, allowed at least 101 points in four of their final five preseason games on the way to a 2-6 record. Several factors, including injuries and the coaching staff's plan to look at free agents and rookies, contributed to the porous defense.
    However, surrendering 124 points to visiting Phoenix in Friday's preseason finale should have alarmed them.

    If the Kings continue the poor on-ball defense they showed much of this preseason, they'll certainly have the chance to practice the hard-foul philosophy.

    Jackson said discussion about the prohibition of layups and dunks would be nothing new.

    "We always talk about it," Jackson said, "but we never do it. Hopefully, we can do it this year. Everybody knows you shouldn't give up uncontested layups. Hey, foul the (hell) out of him! Don't just give up a layup. But all kinds of things go on during a game. You may have a foul or two in the first quarter, so you might not want to do that.

    "It just depends on the situation in the game. Is the other team making a run? How many (points) are we up? How many points are they up? If they are making a run, you definitely want to take that foul."

    Coach Rick Adelman long has spoken about his team's offensive approach affecting its defensive approach. And following the embarrassing 28-point loss to the Suns, it was abundantly clear that a haphazard, quick-shoot offensive attack placed more pressure on a leaky defense.

    Transition defense was questionable against the quick Suns, but the halfcourt defense was worse. Getting beaten off the dribble, then having the interior defense penetrated resulted in unchallenged paths to the basket or wide-open perimeter attempts.

    That's how Phoenix made 9 of 16 three-point attempts. And that's precisely the way Dallas, under coach Don Nelson, has attacked the Kings in the past and surely will do so Tuesday.

    The Kings' performance so disgusted Adelman that he said he talked to the team about drastic measures.

    "I told them if they wanted me to call plays every time down the court and keep the scores in the 70s, I can do that," Adelman said in what for him nearly represents offensive blasphemy.

    Before the Kings head to Dallas, cuts likely will be made today. Adelman said backup center Greg Ostertag, who is recovering from a broken hand, will be on the active roster. Guard Doug Christie, suffering from tender foot tissue, probably will learn his status today. If Christie goes on the injured list, he will miss five games.

    Sacramento's starting lineup, besides Christie, consists of Chris Webber, Peja Stojakovic, Brad Miller and Mike Bibby, with Ostertag, Jackson, Darius Songaila and first-round draft pick Kevin Martin coming off the bench. Maurice Evans, who looks ready to replace Christie in the opening-night lineup, and Matt Barnes clearly have been the best free agents.

    That's 11 players, including Christie. The Kings then will have to decide what to do with still-hobbling Courtney Alexander, Erik Daniels, Alton Ford, David Bluthenthal and second-round draft choice Ricky Minard.

    There is no excuse for poor half court defense. This is the same Rockets with the lockdown defense in the halfcourt set. While we may lose a little in transition, there is absolutely no reason to lose it in the half court set.
     
  12. OrangeRowdy95

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    You forgot the $$$
     
  13. OrangeRowdy95

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    lol funny post. Can I have your magic crystal ball?
     
  14. BetterThanEver

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    JVG was 9-7 also in his first month as coach of the Rockets. We didn't fire him, after a month. He turned out to be pretty decent. ;-) I am hoping this new guy can improve on the rest of the season and do better than the last one.
     
  15. rocketsjudoka

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    As I mentioned in another thread. Adelman's Rockets are still very much a work in progress. The first part of the season Adelman largely stuck to JVG plays and lineups as that was what he felt the team was comfortable with. As the Rockets hit a wall and Adelman saw the limitations of that style he's been trying out different plays and lineups to see what works for the team. I haven't seen last nights game or the Warriors game but did notice that in the Suns, Clippers and Nuggets game a lot of new plays and lineups were being put it.

    As these lineups and plays are new and are being made on the fly it shouldn't be a surprise that the resultants are inconsistent and very well could blow up in Adelman's face but I will give him credit for actually trying to figure out what works for this team than the JVG approach of just doing it his way.
     
  16. doublebogey

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    Mark Jackson said to JVG in his face in 06/07 NBA Final Gm 4 on national TV:

    "You're putrid in offense."

    Mark Jackson's brutal honesty made me fall off from my couch.

    Don't pretend u dont know the difference. It's well documented and advertised.
     
  17. amathie

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    super, i love it

     
  18. poprocks

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    I seem to remember Yao having this problem under JVG's offense. Doesn't Pat Riley run a clone offense of JVG's??


    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3145891

    Shaq says teammates need to find 'better' ways to get him the ball
    ESPN.com news services

    Updated: December 7, 2007, 5:07 PM ET
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    Shaquille O'Neal once again is less than pleased with his role in the Miami Heat's offense and, once again, he let everyone know it.

    After the Heat's 14th loss in 18 games to start the season, a 112-106 loss to Portland on Thursday night, O'Neal said his teammates need to feed him the ball more.

    Several weeks ago, teammate Dwyane Wade called O'Neal out for not being motivated enough to turn his game around and shake Miami out of a lousy 1-8 start.

    But, O'Neal said Thursday, his game is fine and the Heat would be better if they looked for him more often.

    "If I'm taking 20 shots a game, and I'm only making two, then you can say my production is going down," O'Neal said, "but I'm still shooting 60 or 65 percent from the field. So they've got to find better ways to get me the ball. It should be simple."

    Through Thursday, O'Neal is shooting 59 percent from the floor while averaging 15 points and 7.7 rebounds per game.

    When asked if he let his teammates or Riley know how he felt, the Miami Herald said O'Neal replied, "I shouldn't have to [expletive] communicate that."

    At the time Wade used the media to roust Shaq, O'Neal said he was fine with the tactic.

    "We have that kind of relationship where we could talk to each other like that," O'Neal said then. "He was right. We're fine."

    After Thursday's loss, O'Neal had suggestions for whomever is with him on the floor.

    "Guys should drive, they should cut. I'm a great passer from the post," he said, according to the Herald. "Other guys have to take it personally if they're fronting me and backing me. You have to say, 'OK, they're disrespecting me, so I'm going to get 40 on you tonight.' "
     
  19. Cohen

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    No, but prob many of the same people here wanted to.
     
  20. Cohen

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    Please, look at your number post and your status.

    Once you have done that.

    Shut up.
     

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