but here's my point; the one i've made ALL ALONG dating back to last year: did he NOT have a good game against our secondary, too? did norm chow not outcoach richard smith overall? did field position not impact the game at all? were our six turnovers and 34 yards of total offense in the first half not factors? do you realize in the 2Q, houston ran 9 offensive plays; NINE. their three drives lasted 3, 3 and 2 plays. they nealry had as many punts (3). meanwhile, tennessee ran 25 plays. the DL did not play well; but to even begin to hang yesterday's loss anywhere near their vicinity is lazy; pick the biggest target (mario williams) and zero in on them. that's the ONLY explanation. it happened all year in 2006 with carr and williams is the new carr. let me ask you a question: if you were granted the first five picks in next year's draft, and there were players of equal skill level available at every single position, which five would you take? all things being equal: this current team (healthy) with no salary cap ramifications? if you mention DL among that 5 - hell, i'll give you 7, you're being dishonest.
by the way, once again, this thread is a week old, you were the one too lazy to realize that when you insulted me in your first response. game set match thanks for playing
about what i expected. god forbid you include any insight, provoke any thought, or engage any discussion. "*******" and "dumbass" are your lifelines; consistently your only play.
I provided insight in my first post, you were too lazy to read it I must be provoking thought since you always have these day long arguments with me
once again, i DID read it. here's your idea of "insight": blaming the d-line in the same breath you admit demarcus faggins isn't good enough to start. brilliant.
it was *about* vince young? really? it was ABOUT him; i posted something that was about vince young? news to me. i mentioned him. but, again, this is what you do - you insult people, post unrelated tangents in hopes of quelling mounting opposition, avoid direct challenges/questions... and, as was shown in another thread (one in which you also devolved into personal insults in lieu of providing cogent rebuttals), the DL has actually been better this year than it was last year. more sacks, better rankings, and for those of us who watch the games, an obvious upgrade in ways that aren't reflected statistically. and we see the offense struggling; we see teams pick on demarcus faggins; we note the lack of blitzing; we're aware of how often our safeties are caught out of position...
the only thing that was unrelated was your reference to the titans game in this thread that the thread wasn't about. but you still refuse to admit you started all this crap when you said i didn't watch the game because vy wasn't playing when you didn't know what the hell you were talking about. let me ask you, what team in the nfl is solid at every position, every unit. the colts have a great offense, because that's what they invest in. the steelers have a great defense, because that's what they invest in. apparently you don't understand the dynamics of the nfl. the texans have invested in their d-line. when that fails, their foundation fails. when indy's offense doesn't play well, peyton and the receivers, they don't win. when the steelers defense doesn't play well, like last night, they don't win. when the texans d-line doesn't play well, they don't win. so you can keep ignoring the fact that this is what kubiak wants to build his team around, others will choose not to stick their head in the sand. chicago, defense sucks this year, they suck, defense played well last year, they won. get it, got it?
The point is that this DL can be better but isn't living up to its potential. How many more first rounders does it need? Its already got three, the potential is there Everyone realizes there are other areas that need to be improved on the team. OL, RB, DB etc. But since this unit has had a lot of money and draft picks put into it and hasn't suffered the injury bug severely it is catching the heat for not living up to its potential. If this is what to expect from this unit, this team is in trouble. I don't think so, I think they will be better
really? i owned up to it nearly six hours ago. in that time, you've hid behind "*******" and "dumbass" and "jerk." so, did you watch the game? btw, keep diverting. what will be your next irrelevant item to bring up? so when indy's offense or pitt's defense doesn't play well, they lose. but when houston's d-line doesn't play well, they lose? did i fairly represent your point? the one in which you compared an offense and a defense to a single defensive unit? you should maybe take a break; go outside, walk around, gather your thoughts... because posting pap like this is not doing you any favors. the texans by and large started over in 2006; very nearly from scratch. i believe 12 players remain from the 2005 team. and you want to compare them -- no, no, not "them;" sorry, four of their 55 players -- to teams that have been building their strengths since, in indianapolis' case, 1998 when they drafted peyton manning?
no I said you were trying to be one, and it backfired. and nice way to own up, by stating even though you were wrong your points still stands. very man of you not going to dignify well to be more specific, indy in peyton, wr, and backs, pittsburgh, linebackers, are you satisfied. it didn't take long for peyton to payoff, they were in the playoffs the next year, your point again?
believe me; i FULLY understand the point. what i object to is ripping the DL's play from any and all context. first of all, they've been the lone consistent bright spot this year on defense other than ryans. johnson is starting to really round into a decent player; okoye looks like he has a load of potential; and williams continues to play well and have an impact. if they've struggled, it's been a combination of things: the offense; the secondary. singling them out would be akin to lumping the offense's struggles on schaub. "yeah, but there are injur --" nope; don't want to hear it: it's his fault. more turnovers than TDs; three offensive TDs with him under center in five games; etc. if the DL was populated by four reggie whites; the secondary would still suck; the offense would still be turning the ball over more than, i believe, any team in the league... and i'm fairly certain, we'd still be 3-4.
if they were populated by four reggie whites, they wouldn't need a good secondary because the ball would never get there. the ultimate irony of your argument, is you criticize the offensive line who didn't give the qb time to throw. did the titans blitz, no they have a good d-line, they don't have to blitz, their secondary only has to be mediocre, they're linebackers are free to make plays. just like the texans management want to play.
you know what i attribute all these problems to? Andre Johnson's injury. teams don't respect any of the Texans' receivers so they just send a blitz package any time they wish. i truly believe AJ makes that much of a difference. it's not the OL regressing. AJ IS the Texans' best player. when you don't have to gameplan for him, everything changes. the offense can't stay on the field as long which means the defense has to pick up the slack. early in games, the defense has come away with several TOs, but you can't ask them to keep doing that every possession. since the offense isn't staying on the field, that tires out the defense. it's a totally different game when your opponent will only rush 4 b/c they're afraid of you making a big play. now, they can rush with 6 with no fear of anyone burning them. opponents feel they can cover our receivers one-on-one.
not surprised. let me clear out so you can backtrack more effectively. is that enough space? and, oh - you didn't mean the colts' *offense,* just its qb, rb, and wr. got it. and i'm not even remotely surprised you'd fail to mention one of the nfl's best-ever OLs and probably it's best TE, not to mention stability among its offensive coaches. none of them were high draft choices; why would we discuss them? also, troy palamalu; one of the NFL's most effective 3-man fronts; and a dominant, ball-control offense in pittsburgh would like to talk to you about the team's "linebackers." and yes, you continue to satisfy me. yeah, and do you realize marshall faulk, marvin harrison and tarik glenn were all already on the roster in 1998, and that jeff saturday and edgerrin james joined the team a year later? those are three hall of famers and two boderline hall of famers. is your point that houston's defense has that much talent?
you didn't watch the game. care to guess who initially knocked schaub out of the game? (hint: it wasn't a defensive lineman.)
