The De-Yaoing of Yao...A Skills Development Discussion

You sure Tmac would come for Francis???

 

it doesnt matter

 

Yao will excell in the high post but JVG is a dumb ass and sticks him in the low post out of sheer stubborness. He believes Yao will eventually become a low post player but he won't. People never, ever, ever change. You are who you are, forever. Nature is immutable. Change is an illusion.


JVG should be executed, stat. He is the biggest problem. He is a moron. He will damage anything he defiles, with his evil pride.

 

i want rudy back after this year

 

I disagree.... yao will have nice stats line if he played more high post game but i think rockets will lose most of the games. To win n be dominant, once need to be a low post threat, dominating the paint, patrol the paint. Just look at Shaq n hakeem, that's why they won championships and not divac or sabonis and JVG knows bout this. What is the purpose of having a 7'6 center shooting mid range jumper??? I might as well trade yao for brad miller....
We need Yao to dominant the low post in oder to win games and championships. But i agree he can spent 20-30% of his time at high post to pull out the defenders for T-mac to slash into the paint or tmac passes to yao at the high post for jumpers. But i think 80% of yao's time, he still need to be at the low post for the rockets to be efficient.... just my 2cents....

 

Yao needs to regain his jumper. Defenses no longer respect his outside shot which almost totally nullifies the screen and roll the Rockets used to use all the time. I don't see how the Rockets can solve the fronting defense without perfecting a lob pass. When they try to swing the ball back to the high post to get to Yao, the opposing defender on Yao can still stick his arm out to poke the ball away on the pass. What I don't like seeing is them effing around with the same gameplan with no innovation at all on the offense. If they try lobbing the ball with a former Heisman QB, it may work.

 

jvg is not a good coach for yao because i don't think the coach believes in his center. jvg has shown little confidence and patience with the his big guy. if he misses a few shots at the beginning of the game, he won't see the ball much at the post for the half.

do you see many centers run out to the 3-pt line to set screen?

jvg said he wants the offense to go through yao. how many times do you see yao get to touch the ball at positions that he can score? not many.

i want to see the rox come down and give the ball to yao in the first 10 possessions of the game.

 

Actually, JVG complained a lot late last season. What happenen then? Yao got called more fouls!

 

Agreed, Yao needs to regain his long range jumper.

Also, Yao needs Jabbar to teach him the hook shot. Ewing is like a piece of chewed out suger cane that's no longer useful on the Rockets. I also suspect Ewing is trying to clone Yao into Ewing II and limiting Yao's creativity. Yao is a freaking two time all star and immensely talented big man who deserves to figure out the game on his own. I've been saying this since the last season so it's not jumping the gun on two games.

Yao seems to be a slow starter on offense so it's better to give him some easy jumpers first to get him into a groove. If he hits them, he's hot. If he doesn't, follow the golden rule when cold, get to the basket, either by low post plays or slashing, rolling... which brings up the old problem:

When is Yao gonna quit being just a big dummy and be really involved in PNRs? JVG should instigate a rule PASS to Yao like he's your DADDY!

The season is still young but these are things that's not time sensitive.

 

Simply not true. JVG has said this is Yao's team. He said it last year, he's said it this year. It's up to Yao to take over.

Yao cannot get away when quciker (just about everyone) centers guard him. They front Yao, and he does a terrible job of sealing off on the swing pass. It's almost impossible to get it down in there. Also, Yao is terrible at passing out of the post. That's where all his TO's come from.

From Day 1, to try and make Yao an outside C instead of inside would have been a mistake. No great C has relayed almost exclusively on outside jumpers. You're thinking more of the molds of Sabonis, Smiths. The Rockets and most fans wanted Yao to far exceed these two players, and become something great.

He's setting high screens for TRACY MCGRADY. Not Charlie Ward, not Mo Taylor. This is the PERFECT P-N-R and I cannot stress how much we should go to this. You either have a an open lane for one of the most talented players in the league, or you have a wide open shot off the roll for a top 5 center in the game. Of course you P-N-R.

I think Yao improved last year under JVG/Ewing as far as toughness and developing that low post game more. This year he needs to continue to do so, and improve on that. I'm not judging him by two games, but so far it does look discouraging.

 

i agree with ur jvg comment abt how he needs to adjust his system to players but still, i think yao is overall a better player now than he was back then, yao just needs to work and recover from the injury, the season is early, once everyone on our team gets going and the season jitters get out of our stomachs, yao will put up those numbers he did last year even better this year, i predict 21 pts 11 reb for yao this year, tmac will start goin and should avg around 26-28 atleast for us to be successful, and also we need bench play, juwon needs to step up with his 15 jj with his 14 ward with 8 taylor with 12, blah blah, GIVE THE ROCKETS 3 WEEKS.....3 WEEKS AND WE WILL BE PLAYING REALLY GOOD

 

The screens are too high. Hes setting screens halfway between half court and the 3 point line. He needs to be setting the screens at the top of the key or closer in.

 

Besides, Yao gets worn out running around setting 2 or 3 screens on a possesion. That is not the best way to use Yao. The most efficient use of Yao is to let him set up on the post and get the ball to him instantly before the defense has time to front him. Once he gets the ball, he can make a decision, and he makes good decisions. So much simpler and much more effective than a 7 6 guy running around the perimeter setting screens. TMac doesnt need a screen to take his man off the dribble. Let Yao screen around the paint if they want him to screen. Yao should be able to screen low enough that he can just turn around and take one step and receive the pass for the dunk. Let MoT set the perimeter screen for TMac.

 

hmmmm. i think yao is havin confidence problems. always notice if he missed 2-3 shots in a row, the next thing he will do is to pass the ball.....

 

H's obviously not learning anything form Ewing then, who took a shot even if he was 1-20

 

how many times do we see yao shot more 20 field goals attempt??? Ewing is garbage

 

The point I was making in my rather apoplectic previous post was ignored in the rebuttal. Yao is better in the high post. JVG wants low post. You argue that's a good reason to stick Yao there. It's not.

Yao isn't ever going to be a low post player. People never change. Kareem never played like Wilt. Walton never played like Mo Malone.
Yao is who he is. That's why I'm so frustrated with JVG. He doesn't work with what he's got. He's trying to force the round peg into the square hole. A more creative coach would use Yao and Tmac at their strengths.

You can run high post UCLA cut.
You can run triple post (triangle), with Yao high right, Tmac left.
You can run high pick and roll.
You can run princeton.

There are many more options ...but instead we want a clone of Ewing? What did that guy ever accomplish? Really, teams built around that DON'T pile up the rings. Jordan had crap in the low post. Magic had the finesse player Kareem. Some of the greatest low post guys ever didn't really get as many rings as you'd expect - Wilt, Mo Malone, even Shaq. Are you telling me that you can expect the best possible results with a finesse guy being forced to play that kind of role?

So, please reply why you think Yao can completely change his nature and his game, and why it's a good idea to waste time forcing him to try.

 

I watched part of Cavs and Heat game and noticed that Shaq have more freedom where he post, high and low, whatever he feel comfortable to get the ball. Basically play with flow and no waste energy. Past two games, I think Yao was trying to do too much (or being asked to do too much at low post) and waste lots of energy at the same time, out of sync. Yao should be allowed to be post at high or low wherever he feels comfortable and not tobe forced at low post all the time. I noticed 3rd quarter of Raptor's game which allowed to post little high and get the ball much easier, he is very effective. If he can effective at high post, it will help him low post game as well.

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