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The Cybertruck - New Tesla Pickup Unveiling

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Dr of Dunk, Nov 21, 2019.

  1. Space Ghost

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    I cant tell if youre serious or trolling
     
  2. Sajan

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    Forget the people inside this..

    what about the other car? I fear for anyone who gets hit by this monstrosity…
     
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  3. Sajan

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    Also the number of people touting this bullet proof thing…I can’t tell if this is an extension of America’s infatuation with guns? Or these people all live in the most dangerous neighborhoods?
     
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    lol arm chair pretend engineers coming out of the wood works. Cybertruck is going to break nhtsa safety scores.
     
  5. FrontRunner

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    I haven't watched the videos posted in this thread about the Cybertruck and haven't read much about it. (TBH. I rarely watch videos posted here if they're more than a couple minutes long and this interests me very little.) My understanding is that, unlike what Elon promised, it doesn't actually feature an exoskeleton, and it's actually a unibody pickup. It also has four-wheel steering (on top of what I imagine are independent electric motors in the rear), which is probably why the rear wheels are moving in the crash test video.

    Here's one article I read about it:

    Tesla Cybertruck Went From Exoskeleton Marvel to Unibody Honda Ridgeline Competitor
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    Published: 30 Apr 2023, 13:45 UTC • By: Gustavo Henrique Ruffo

    Anyone following the Tesla Cybertruck saga is probably relieved that it is coming to an end. From a clumsy revelation on November 21, 2019, it may finally reach production lines in 2023. We know that because the company shared a few images of its pilot production line that show the electric pickup truck's body. It was enough for manufacturing specialists to declare it is a unibody product, like "a big old Model Y" or a "Honda Ridgeline." That was the last nail in the disappointment coffin that buried any hope of a truly innovative vehicle.

    When he introduced the Cybertruck, Elon Musk disclosed it would have a stressed-skin design with an exoskeleton that would be a revolution in vehicle manufacturing. This was the reason for the electric pickup truck to have ultra-hard stainless steel exterior panels in the first place. The Tesla CEO even invited Franz von Holzhausen on stage to hit the Cybertruck with a dead blow hammer – Musk said it was a sledgehammer, but that was not true. In the Tesla CEO's words, "the body and the bed don't do anything useful" in a body-on-frame construction: "They are carried like cargo, like a sack of potatoes."

    An exoskeleton pickup truck would have "the stress moved to the outside skin." Several people believed that promise – myself included. I interviewed stressed-skin structure specialists and engineers. Everybody was excited by the perspective of a truck that saved weight and still delivered everything a body-on-frame competitor did.

    Electric vehicles face a literally massive issue with weight due to their battery packs. If Tesla managed to reduce mass with a stressed-skin structure, the Cybertruck would have a fantastic headstart against its competitors: it could present the same capabilities with a more extended range and better performance. After all, lighter vehicles also accelerate faster.

    That was just the most significant promise the Cybertruck made. It would also have a groundbreaking new cell with a structural battery pack that we still knew little about at the time. Its wiring harness system would be simpler and much lighter than in the current vehicles. Finally, Tesla had patented two new windshield wiper systems: one using lasers and one powered by an electromagnetic moving block that would make the wiper move only horizontally . . .

    In February 2021, I interviewed Sandy Munro about the use of massive castings in the Cybetruck. The engineer told me the vehicle would have a unique structure, possibly similar to the one the i3 presented. While the BMW had an aluminum frame and a carbon-fiber body installed over it, Tesla's electric pickup truck would have an aluminum frame with a stressed-skin body on top. The images Tesla disclosed deny that.

    The body structure is complete. The only difference Steuben could point out was a "fastening strategy just below the windshield" – check the "tiny little circles" in the image. The bent stainless steel panels will just be attached to the body structure. In other words, the Cybetruck will just carry them "like a sack of potatoes." Steuben sums it up like this:

    "This is an evolution of the design philosophy of Tesla applied to a truck. It'd be like if you took the Model Y from Texas and said: 'Let's make this thing a truck.'"

    For a vehicle that would be a manufacturing revolution, being a larger Model Y and a competitor to the Ford Maverick, Honda Ridgeline, and other unibody pickup trucks is nothing short of frustrating. Cybertruck buyers may start praying that it at least has a decent range and reasonable towing and cargo capacities.

    Read more...

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    It will be interesting to see how it performs in much harder crash tests like the IIHS does. It probably won't be a game-breaker, even if it does relatively poorly, as many pickups have scored poorly in recent years with them.
     
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    I most assuredly mentioned that. It's a deathmobile for anyone it runs into
     
  9. Space Ghost

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    Did people think the term exoskeleton meant it was going to provide protection like a literal tank? I honestly don't know.

    My impression it was going be stainless steel sheet metal fastened to the frame.
     
  10. FrontRunner

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    I honestly don't really care how it's constructed, but I think there are people that are mad that Musk has this habit of overpromising (when there's absolutely no need to) and underdelivering.
     
  11. Space Ghost

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    I find this logic (used by many) highly amusing. FSD is one topic that he has over promised. People have paid a lot of money for this feature and its not even a releasable product.

    That said, I highly respect the mans accomplishments. The are many people, for whatever reason, resent the man and would love nothing more to destroy everything he and his teams have accomplished. I don't think he is a demi-god or free from perfection. Contrary, its the people who somehow think Musk can do the impossible are the ones who view him as a demi-god. If by now people haven't learned how to translate anything he says about future products as nothing more than extreme hopeful optimism, then that is their problem. Nobody is forcing them to use his products.
     
  12. Sajan

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    But when you have a rabid fanbase, you can do that.
    Look at @Space Ghost who defends everything he does. Past broken promises doesn't bother them. They only see future potential. There's not a "why should I believe you this time around..?"

    It's also a good tactic to get people to continue investing in the company. People want to be vowed. No one wants to hear we have a slightly better cruise control...they want to hear YOU CAN MAKE MONEY BY HAVING YOUR CAR ROBOTAXI!

    Same goes for Cathie woods...bitcoin fanatics......
    Cathie does by setting insane price targets on company stock and lures people in with hopes and dreams.
     
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    I think it looks really cool, and I bet it would be fun to drive but I don't think I would buy it...............why, would anyone need this thing to get from point A to Point B, that's all a car is for me, a means to get from one place to another. But I get it, its a shiny new toy but man I would not want to be on the receiving end of a crash in this tank. I could see some military uses for this thing................its a hummer on steroids
     
  14. Space Ghost

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    Contrary, his critics are more obsessed with him than the biggest bois

    I couldn't imaging being complete negatively engrossed in something that had zero impact on me. Who has time for that much negativity
     
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    Tundras have some of the lowest payloads in full size trucks. Some of it has to do with how stupidly heavy they are and also because people buy the Platinum models that are spec'd to the moon but still want a soft ride. They have gone a way to fix this last year with the new model but in general I would say the Tundra has been the "car" buyer's truck. The Tacoma is more of a workhorse for sure.
     
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    those are the old prototype dimensions. New dimensions are smaller and it will be under the 80 inch width avoiding the amber lights dually and Raptor has.

    It will be significantly smaller than the Raptor.
     
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    @tinman vibes



    AND it'll depreciate $500/day and resell for $23,000 in 3yrs. GOOD LUCK SUCKERS
     
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    CXbby acting like this car will jack you off while you drive it.
     
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    ?? Maybe you should look into 70’s cars vs crumple zones.

    I’m quite sure he was not trolling.
     
  20. Space Ghost

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    The guy is doing a full vehicle crash analysis based ONLY off a 3 second video clip, completely ignoring 10s of thousands of regulations and safety standards, never mind its a completely different vehicle design.
     
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