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The Curious Case of Kenneth Faried

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by don grahamleone, Jun 21, 2019.

  1. eman

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    We may never know what happened between Manimal and MDa. The playoff benching really vexed, and since we don't know why it happened by now-- cue the Teddy Pendergrass-- we may never know why it happened. Might've cost us a championship.
     
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    What would it take to acquire him. A 1st, maybe a 2nd. Oh right, we could have him for nothing because nobody else f**king wants him.

    I'm honestly stunned how much people around here b**** about a guy who can't find a job in the league like he's the long lost missing piece.
     
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  3. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Because teams are just lining up at the door to sign this championship difference maker, right? The hell is wrong with you?!?
     
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    Results > Energy

    Teams aren't exactly lining up to sign him.
     
  5. eman

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    Man, there’s so much wrong with me, I don’t even know where to start. But thanks for caring enough to ask.
     
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    Energy equals better results :D
    This team need energy players , self starters, the greatest falls of this team, for years now, are close to 100% attributable to the lack of energy.
    Who care what other teams do? they are losers anyway
     
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    ahahahhahaha!
     
  8. D-rock

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    Teams were not lining up to sign McLemore either.

    And Faried was a double double machine for Rockets last season, no one wanted him then either.
     
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  10. chenjy9

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    And then the Rockets declined to play him or re-sign him and since then, despite having played last season, NO TEAM has signed him either. Why is that? Try thinking about it for a bit instead of thinking you know something that the Rockets FO and all the other NBA teams don't realize. If it was a simple matter of Faried accepting any role at the vet min, he would probably be on a team instead of sitting around unemployed. A big part of his known beef was that he felt he deserved more minutes even after our team finally got healthy and we didn't give it to him.

    Also, not sure what your point is in trying to compare an undersized big whose only strength is hustle to bringing in a SG who, even though has struggled, has still managed to hit threes at an overall decent percentage to play for a team that is known for generating shooters open looks. Similar to Green, Ben has found success on the Rockets because both Harden and WB take the decision making out of his game. He just needs to focus on getting to his spot and wait for the pass if left open.
     
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    Like with D-Rock, if you can't 1) realize you are comparing apples to oranges and 2) figure out why the Rockets signed a player with poor decision making, but has been able to hit threes at a decent to good percentage to try out in a system designed to take decision making out of these type of players' hands and give them open shots instead, then I really don't know what else to tell you. Like I also told D-Rock, it would be a good idea to stop thinking you know something that the Rockets FO (one of the smartest in the league) and the rest of the NBA have not realized. This is especially laughable considering the Rockets have actually SEEN Faried play.
     
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    Put me on the side of: “I wish we would’ve resigned Faried” ... :cool:

    I’m not an analytics guru like Murray, and I know he’s not the typical 3&D guy we are always looking for but my eye senses showed me he fit well with what we are doing here! Don’t know why other teams have shunned him, and honestly I don’t care. I enjoyed watching him play for us and I wish him well wherever he plays (except if he’s going against us)...

    Michelle Margaux and Manimal were both let go.
    Ironic?? Yes or No?? o_O

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    this was my first thought.... perhaps ppl on teams are jealous of this dude
     
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    Chenjy, you educating me, on not questioning FO is laughable.

    I am a huge supporter of both Morey and MDA but follow no one blindly.
     
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    Who says anything about following anyone blindly. If that is your takeaway from my post then try re-reading it. What I am educating you on is reading between the lines:
    • We picked him up when all our bigs were hurt / old and yes, he did help us out as a bandage solution during that time. What happened when we got healthy though? We went away from him, because he wasn't a good defender and he couldn't reliably space the floor or go small ball like we can with Tucker.
    • By the end of the season and playoffs, he fell out of the rotation and was rumored to be upset that we didn't provide him with minutes and a bigger role. So what happened after that? We made no known attempt to re-sign him as did NO OTHER TEAM IN THE NBA, which is why he went to China, you know... the place where players' careers go to die?
    • To this very day, no team is known to have attempted to sign him, even after he was released by his Chinese team (presumably because he wanted to find an NBA team) including the Rockets who has seem in a large enough sample size to get what he brings to the table.
    Again, this is not a case of following Morey blindly. This is a case where every team in the league has repeatedly passed up on the guy, including the Lakers who were desperate for a big man after Cousins went down (they ended up signing Dwight) and the Rockets who have seen Faried play and would still rather rely on Tyson Chandler as our backup. To put it simply, teams with FO's as smart as our FO have passed up on him and you are out here still digging in the mud trying to find gold, the same mud that we threw out no less.

    So what does this actually mean? Well it can mean a few things as I do think Faried is better than a lot of the vet min bigs out there...
    • Faried wants more than vet min money and no team is willing to give it to him
    • Faried wants more than a 3rd string role and no team is willing to give it to him
    • Faried has some sort of baggage (injury, emotional, social, who knows) and is not good enough for teams to be wiling to deal with
    Here is the thing, when you have that many years under your belt and NO ONE WANTS YOU, that says something and says it loudly. When there is smoke, there is (or was) almost always fire.
     
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    Players nobody wanted that play or played here here:
    Kenneth Faried
    Carmelo Anthony
    Gerald Green
    Josh Smith
    Ben Mclemore

    Bottom line, the"nobody wants" him argument is old & should've died when Melo went to Portland averaging 16pts off 41% from 3 (scored 23pts last nite).
     
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  18. D-rock

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    LOL
     
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    Bring back the Manimal
     
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    I can’t wrap my mind around this either, and it pisses me off
     

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