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The Compare Budinger to a Black Player Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Bob Sacamano, Oct 7, 2009.

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  1. trueroxfan

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    no he wants people to compare him to all players and not just white players, therefore he made it clear that it was acceptable to compare him to a black player even though he is white
     
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    lmao me too
     
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    Reggie Miller - Yao will become more like Z than we imagine. He will be reduced to setting a thick pick for a thin man on the perimeter, over and over again.....

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  7. amaru

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    I know what he meant, but he specifically said black players.

    Therefore, he is on the same level as those who compare Chase to white players.

    Like the say, small minds are occupied by small things.........like "race" in this instance.

    :rolleyes:
     
  8. JCDenton

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    Let's pretend to be all trendy and progressive by putting "race" in quotes!

    News flash...when the Nba is almost exclusively black and white, when you stop comparing a white player to other white players, you're going to have to compare him to black ones. Are you really that aghast that the OP neglected all three mexicans and asians as topics for comparison?
     
  9. durvasa

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    From what we've seen of Budinger so far, he's demonstrated very good perimeter shooting and overall high scoring efficiency.

    Here are the top 10 forwards in NBA history in TS%, with at least 500 3-pointers made and who shot at least 37% from beyond the arc for their career.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/tiny.cgi?id=CtuqX

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    [B]Rk    Player              G       MP        FG%      3P%      FT%     TS%[/B]
    1     Chris Mullin        986     32163     0.509    0.384    0.865   0.594
    2     Dirk Nowitzki       839     30693     0.472    0.378    0.872   0.581
    3     Peja Stojakovic     709     24402     0.454    0.402    0.894   0.58
    4     Mike Miller         638     20585     0.462    0.401    0.767   0.574
    5     Wally Szczerbiak    651     20052     0.485    0.406    0.86    0.573
    6     Kyle Korver         465     12006     0.426    0.404    0.885   0.571
    7     Rashard Lewis       777     26855     0.458    0.391    0.808   0.567
    8     Larry Bird*         897     34443     0.496    0.376    0.886   0.564
    9     Shane Battier       618     20708     0.447    0.388    0.751   0.56
    10    Glen Rice           1000    34985     0.456    0.4      0.846   0.554
    
    And for guards:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/tiny.cgi?id=Hpiqg
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    Rk    Player              G        MP       FG%      3P%      FT%      TS%
    1     Reggie Miller       1389     47619    0.471    0.395    0.888    0.614
    2     John Stockton*      1504     47764    0.515    0.384    0.826    0.608
    3     Brent Barry         912      23643    0.46     0.405    0.823    0.607
    4     Steve Nash          934      29012    0.487    0.432    0.9      0.604
    5     Steve Kerr          910      16207    0.479    0.454    0.864    0.593
    6     Manu Ginobili       478      13237    0.454    0.376    0.821    0.591
    7     Mark Price          722      21560    0.472    0.402    0.904    0.586
    8     Hersey Hawkins      983      32034    0.461    0.394    0.87     0.585
    9     Leandro Barbosa     422      10918    0.471    0.404    0.824    0.582
    10    Jeff Hornacek       1077     33964    0.496    0.403    0.877    0.582
    
    If we narrow the above results to players who are 6'6 to 6'10 (somewhat close to Budinger's size), we have:

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    [B]Rk    Player              G       MP        FG%      3P%      FT%     TS%[/B]
    1     Reggie Miller       1389    47619     0.471    0.395    0.888   0.614
    2     Brent Barry         912     23643     0.46     0.405    0.823   0.607
    3     Manu Ginobili       478     13237     0.454    0.376    0.821   0.591
    4     Chris Mullin        986     32163     0.509    0.384    0.865   0.594
    5     Peja Stojakovic     709     24402     0.454    0.402    0.894   0.58
    6     Mike Miller         638     20585     0.462    0.401    0.767   0.574
    7     Wally Szczerbiak    651     20052     0.485    0.406    0.86    0.573
    8     Kyle Korver         465     12006     0.426    0.404    0.885   0.571
    9     Rashard Lewis       777     26855     0.458    0.391    0.808   0.567
    10    Larry Bird*         897     34443     0.496    0.376    0.886   0.564
    11    Shane Battier       618     20708     0.447    0.388    0.751   0.56
    12    Glen Rice           1000    34985     0.456    0.4      0.846   0.554
    
    Please note that I did not select the "white boy" filter in the above search. And yet, it so happens that 8 players out of 12 above are white. Maybe there's a reason Budinger is mostly compared to other white players beyond his skin color.
     
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    In before the move to D and D forum??
     
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    It's got to be genetic. :D
     
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    I see you misunderstood my post.........I found it ironic that the OP wants people to forget about Chase's "race" when comparing him to other players but then, in the same post, spins around and picks a "race" of players he must be compared to.

    The irony is too sweet to pass up.


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    As for the quotation marks around "race", I don't do that to be trendy. I do that because "race" is nothing more than a social construct that has little biological basis. It fails to take into account a person true ethnicity and classifies them based on a physical feature.

    As a biology student.......I can't put too much stock into it.
     
  13. leebigez

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    White boy filter,that was classic my man lmao
     
  14. Marsarinian

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    Ooh goody, now I've got a new weapon to fight the Shane Battier haters. :p
     
  15. TeamUSA

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    Bud is an asian.
     
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    Been watching Cluthfans.net since it was Clutchfans.com (over 10 years now) and dont post much. But that title for this thread was actually pretty funny. :)
     
  17. eman

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    I'd compared him to Rip Hamilton during SL because of the way he was moving without the ball, coming off screens, catching and shooting. Reggie Miller works, too. Whatever, I'm glad he's on our team.
     
  18. durvasa

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    How about Eddie Johnson?
     
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    Hahaha. Well done durvasa, I love your stats for everything. Also I'm pleasantly surprised that Shane Battier's in the top 10 all time for that.
     
  20. Moonscope

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    I saw this somewhere else, but he is alot like Sean Elliott.
     

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