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The case for keeping Kubiak

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Bandwagoner, Nov 21, 2010.

  1. msn

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    bring that guy back to H-town and have him beat Bud's Titans twice a year...

    ...man, that would be so beautiful. Just, beautiful.
     
  2. TheDreams

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    What bothers me is that Schaub explained that they weren't looking to score a TD at all on the last drive. I'm fine with running the ball there on maybe the first two downs to make the Jets burn their time outs, but I felt they could have taken at least one shot at the end zone.

    Schaub explained that there were concerns if they scored a TD on first or second down, that would leave too much time left for the Jets to tie the game up. I guess that explains the three straight running plays that had no chance to get into the endzone. You know how bad your defense is, I think you have to at least consider taking a shot at getting a TD. Worst case scenario still takes you to OT.

    Starts at the 3:40 mark if anyone wants to listen.

    http://kilt.cbslocal.com/2010/11/22/matt-schaub-with-marc-and-john-112210/
     
  3. rockets934life

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    I can't criticize them for that, they did everything you are suppose to do right there to win. They made them use all their TOs and made them have to score a TD with zero TOs in 50 seconds.

    Having said all that, knowing how truly BAD the defense is, maybe you give it a shot with a pass but NO WAY that SHOULD have come back to haunt...incredible.
     
  4. desihooper

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    And he's right. If they score on first down, the Jets had almost 1:30 with two timeouts to go down the field and try to tie the game. As you can see, they didn't need that much time.... The Texans played it right on offense: run the ball, make them burn their timeouts, and then take some points. I wish they ran something else on third down with a run/pass option for Schaub, but the fact was they lost the game on the defensive execution not on the playcalls at the end of the game.
     
  5. Major

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    It was fun to see the Giants and Philly defenses yesterday. They gave up points, but they blitzed, attacked, forced turnovers, etc.

    If I were defensive coordinator, I'd run Kareem Jackson corner blitzes all day long. He's not going to cover anyone anyway, so why not make him useful? At least then you give up a 10 yard pass instead of a 50 yard one...
     
  6. TheDreams

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    Oh I don't have a problem with running the ball. I just thought they could have consider a play action or a bootleg on third down. I'm not killing Kubiak for that drive. I guess I found it interesting that they didn't consider trying for a TD at all.
     
  7. desihooper

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    I think in that same interview, he came back and clarified that they weren't looking to score on first and second down as to chew up clocks and timeouts. And he did say that he ran the play that was called and wasn't sure if the coaches discussed any other options.

    Reading between the lines, maybe he was thinking the call on 3rd down should've been more aggressive like you and I are suggesting.
     
  8. SwoLy-D

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    He'd probably slip and fall at the LineOfScrimmage. :(
     
  9. v3.0

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    Jeff Fisher and the Titans situation is interesting. It seems on par that Bud Adams would side with an underwhelming and so far a bust of a QB over a proven head coach with playoff and SB appearance pedigree. I've heard comments before that Fisher is just an average head coach, I beg to differ. He may not be a HOF caliber coach (yet), but he would be up there with Billick, Gruden, and maybe below Cowher as far as getting the pick of the litter of available head coaching jobs. (Dungy would be too, but I've read he has no interest in becoming a HC again anytime soon. Actually I've read the same thing on Cowher, but I think he's just waiting on the perfect gig.)
     
  10. Major

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    I think Fisher is a great coach, but I kind of want someone aggressive. I feel like he's the definition of the conservative coach. Not a bad thing and it gets you wins. But I think to suck in fans and get people excited, I'd much rather have a coach that attacks on both sides of the ball - takes risks and makes mistakes, but ultimately really tries to force the issue rather than sort of play not to lose. I feel Fisher has been more of the latter in recent years for whatever reason.

    This is not a criticism of him - his style works extremely well - but I think this team just needs some excitement to it.
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    If this offense can do half the things it did under Kubiak with Fisher here, the gains on the defense will more than make-up for it.

    IMO Kubiak has assembled an elite offense that has a young nucleus of stars ready to shine for another 4-5 years together.

    Let Fisher add his midas touch to personnel acquisition and the defense and see where we go.
     
  12. vinsensual

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    And we can have Del Rio man up our special teams.
     
  13. DonnyMost

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    Jags are 6-4, leading the division, with games left against NYG, TEN, OAK, IND, WASH, and HOU....

    They are going at least 9-7... Del Rio is safe.
     
  14. rockets934life

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    I still have no clue how the #$%$% Jax is 6-4???
     
  15. v3.0

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    You don't think him being saddled with an immature QB that he doesn't really have confidence in is partly the reason for the conservatism?
     
  16. rockets934life

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    If the Texans don't beat a Rusty Smith/Chris Simms lead Titan team then I can't find any excuses for him to stick around. They will stack the line to stop CJ and they will dare Smith to beat them, if he does...WOW.
     
  17. Nick

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    Who are you thinking then? I feel Cowher and Fisher are more similiar than different... sure Cowher yells at refs more, but ultimately coaches a pretty smash-mouth/conservative team.

    Dick Vermeil would likely bring excitement... same goes for Mike Martz (but he wouldn't bring brains). Billick likely has a good mix, but he's just as stubborn in his ways as Kubiak is... but his ways did win a Super Bowl and had the Vikings scoring at a record pace, so maybe he has a right to be.
     
  18. Rocket River

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    If you want the best apples. . .you don't pick them off the ground!!!

    You goto the TREE!!

    Rocket River
    The Coaching Tree!!
     
  19. DonnyMost

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    The moment Fisher gets canned or leaves, I want him here.
     
  20. Nick

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    Love seeing origins like this, although you could argue that Gruden (and a lot of other coaches) are more directly linked to Holmgren/Walsh than some of the other guys they have them listed under.

    Additionally, you could attribute Jeff Fisher to being more influenced by Buddy Ryan than he was Seifert.

    The Parcells tree is just as impressive.

    Marty Morningweg is getting a ton of credit for the Eagles (and Vick's) success this year... enough that people are willing to forget his Detroit stint and give him another shot. Capers is getting similiar love due to his turnaround of the Packers defense.
     

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