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The Case for Jeff Bagwell in the Hall of Fame

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Clutch, Oct 6, 2014.

  1. Xercules

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    Less than 30 min left...
     
  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Also, Thomas played 971 games at first base - Bagwell 2100+. Well over half of Thomas's games were at DH.
     
  3. joeson332

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    Almost close to the announcement!!! Starting to legit get nervous.
     
  4. Xercules

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    98.5 - R. Johnson
    97.6 - P. Martinez
    86.3 - Smoltz
    84.9 - Biggio
    76.0 - Piazza
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    63.4 - Raines
    62.4 - Bagwell
     
  5. Nick

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    4 new members!!!
     
  6. tellitlikeitis

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    Congrats to Biggio! Always my favorite player. I am so glad I got to see his 3,000th hit game.
     
  8. J.R.

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    55.7% for Bagwell
     
  9. leroy

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    Up but still a travesty that it's this low.
     
  10. vince

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    I always remember McLane saying that Bagwell would be the first Astros Hall of famer.....

    To think that Biggio was so close to leaving, up until McLane decided to pay Biggio a few more million. Of which he'd of gotten more than that amount had he left via free agency!

    I don't think many of us thought that Biggio would get the Hall before Baggy....
     
  11. Nick

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    At least he didn't go down... but it will be tough. Piazza will likely get in next year.
     
  12. J.R.

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    Name           Votes(Pct.)   Yrs on ballot
    Randy Johnson	534 (97.3)	1
    Pedro Martinez	500 (91.1)	1
    John Smoltz	455 (82.9)	1
    Craig Biggio	454 (82.7)	3
    Mike Piazza	384 (69.9)	3
    Jeff Bagwell	306 (55.7)	5
    Tim Raines	302 (55)	8
    Curt Schilling	215 (39.2)	3
    Roger Clemens	206 (37.5)	3
    Barry Bonds	202 (36.8)	3
    Lee Smith	166 (30.2)	13
    Edgar Martinez	148 (27)	6
    Alan Trammell	138 (25.1)	14
    Mike Mussina	135 (24.6)	2
    Jeff Kent	77 (14)	        2
    Fred McGriff	71 (12.9)	9
    Larry Walker	65 (11.8)	5
    Gary Sheffield	64 (11.7)	1
    Mark McGwire	55 (10)         9
    Don Mattingly	50 (9.1)	15
    Sammy Sosa	36 (6.6)	3
    N. Garciaparra  30 (5.5)	1
    Carlos Delgado	21 (3.8)	1
    Troy Percival	4  (0.7)	1
    Aaron Boone	2  (0.4)	1
    Tom Gordon	2  (0.4)	1
    Darin Erstad	1  (0.2)	1
    Rich Aurilia	0  (0)     	1
    Tony Clark	0  (0)	        1
    Jermaine Dye	0  (0)	        1
    Cliff Floyd	0  (0) 	        1
    Brian Giles	0  (0)	        1
    Eddie Guardado	0  (0)	        1
    Jason Schmidt	0  (0)	        1
     
    #312 J.R., Jan 6, 2015
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  13. J.R.

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    You may be right.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Bagwell's HOF yearly totals:
    2011: 41.7
    2012: 56.0
    2013: 59.6
    2014: 54.3
    2015: 55.7</p>&mdash; Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) <a href="https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/552542458723467265">January 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
  14. Hey Now!

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    Disappointing final number. I outlined some positives on the blog, if anyone's interested. Spoiler alert: I think Piazza's now inevitable election and Raines' big jump this year are both good things for Bagwell.
     
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    Bagwell should have been the first...kind of a bittersweet day
     
  16. BigM

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    This is the most interesting Biggio has ever been in an interview. Lol. On mlbtv right now.
     
  17. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    That's not saying much. :)
     
  18. vince

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    Tough for Baggy in the Hall of Fame result... But I just read how he sold one of his mansions for over 11 million dollars! At least Bagg's can rest assured he's better off financially than the presumptuous haters.

    I think the Baseball world can't believe that what Baggy did was incredibly impressive. His numbers never really popped out, because he was more of a 30+ HR guy. All the while, everyone was foaming at the mouth following 50++ HR seasons all too prevalent in the MLB. So when Baggy was playing, he was seen seen as a second tier type player. (Proven by only 4 All star appearances, and only 1 start at 1st base) They totally missed it as it was happening following Luis Gonzales, Caminiti, Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, etc.....

    I remember thinking at one point, "How did Gonzales become a better slugger than Baggy? Boy did the Astros botch this one again..... Leave it to the Dis'Astros".

    If Baggy were using PED's, I think he'd of been a perenial 50 - 60 HR guy. Probably competing for 70+... As it turn out, Baggy for all his power never got more than 47 HR in a season. And he only got 40+ for 3 season.
     
  19. BigM

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    That's what I mean. :)
     
  20. SamCassell

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    All Star appearances is really a fluky thing, with the results being skewed by the requirement to include all teams as well as the number of stars at a given position in a given league. You have to add to that, for whatever reason, Bags was always a slow starter in his career. Break out his 1st half / 2nd half splits and it seemed like he struggled out of the gate every season before catching fire down the stretch. The only good start I can remember was that unbelievable MVP year, .368/.451/.570 slash line playing half his games in the Dome.
     

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