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The case against Ghislaine Maxwell

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  1. deb4rockets

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    Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company.

    George Washington
     
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    EXCLUSIVE: 'Would you mind giving it a crack?' Bill Clinton leans back and smiles while receiving neck massage from Jeffrey Epstein victim, 22, in never-before-seen photos during trip on pedophile's plane to Africa in 2002



      • Bill Clinton is seen enjoying a neck massage from a Jeffrey Epstein victim in never-before-seen photographs obtained exclusively by DailyMail.com
      • The pictures emerged as Clinton is set to make a rallying speech in support of Joe Biden at the Democratic convention on Tuesday night
      • Clinton is seen sitting comfortably and laughing as Chauntae Davies, then a 22-year-old massage therapist, rubs her hands into his shoulders
      • The images show Clinton, then 56, leaning back while Davies kneels on a chair behind him, and in a second image, he seems to be smiling in relief
      • The former President had complained of a stiff neck after falling asleep on Epstein's 'Lolita Express' while on a humanitarian trip to Africa in 2002
      • Epstein's accused madam Ghislaine Maxwell encouraged Davies to give Clinton a massage while the group was refueling at a small airport in Portugal
      • Maxwell, 58, was arrested in July and is currently in prison on charges in connection to Epstein's sex trafficking ring
      • After Maxwell's insistence, Clinton asked Davies: 'Would you mind giving it a crack?'
      • Davies said Clinton was a 'complete gentleman' on the trip and 'saw absolutely no foul play involving him'
      • Clinton's office previously issued a statement in regards to his travels on the plane and denied knowing anything about the financier's crimes.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...ving-neck-massage-Jeffrey-Epstein-victim.html
     
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  4. FrontRunner

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    Meh... This girl was in fact a massage therapist and said herself that Clinton was an absolute gentleman. The camera's flash fired too... Would you pose for photos with someone you're about to f*** after the impeachment trial?

    I think he's probably guilty of a lot of things, including being a serial cheater. Maybe he's even slept with underage girls along the way, but this doesn't look nefarious to me. Some great friends though!
     
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    alternative spin

     
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    Agreed, but if Clinton is involved he has to burn, just like Trump.

    DD
     
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    I doubt either is ever charged with anything. It's fun to imagine though.
     
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    Have you ever been to a massage therapist? Gotten a massage? I have, dozens of times. I've also gotten my "neck cracked" more times than I can count, almost always by a chiropractor I've known for nearly 20 years, but a couple of times by a massage therapist. It feels wonderful, especially when you have a really stiff neck.

    Also, I'm disappointed. Couldn't you have used a larger font?

    ;-)
     
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    I’m on my phone I just copied and pasted bro.
     
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    That's why I added a "winkie," or whatever those are called. You almost never post something like that. Heck, I'm more apt to use a large, bold font than you are and do on occasion. As for Bill, I haven't seen anything to bust his chops over. Not everyone Epstein had interactions with was involved in his bizarre, despicable sex ring. He had a very large number of acquaintances, and clearly got off to being seen with famous people.
     
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    I’m all for massages
    And to be fair
    There’s nothing wrong with the pictures Clinton had
    There’s nothing incriminating

    i mean he could be getting a massage from a fat old guy
     
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    Davies, now in her early 40s, said of the massage pictures: 'Although the image looks bizarre, President Clinton was a perfect gentleman during the trip and I saw absolutely no foul play involving him.'
     
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    Ghislaine Maxwell's deposition is released.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/nyregion/ghislaine-maxwell-epstein-deposition.html

    Deposition of Ghislaine Maxwell, Charged in Epstein Case, Is Revealed
    Ms. Maxwell, who fought to keep the deposition secret, repeatedly denied that she helped Jeffrey Epstein recruit and sexually abuse teenage girls.

    For years, Ghislaine Maxwell has been a central but silent figure in the scandal involving Jeffrey Epstein’s history of abusing teenage girls.

    On Thursday, however, Ms. Maxwell offered her fullest response yet to the swirl of claims surrounding Mr. Epstein as a four-year-old deposition was released. In it, she put up a wall of evasions and denials.

    Over and over again in the 418-page deposition, Ms. Maxwell, 58, rejected accusations of wrongdoing. She denied that she had recruited minors to give Mr. Epstein sexual massages. She denied that she knew he was abusing girls and young women. She denied having engaged in sexual acts herself with underage people.

    “I can’t think of anything I have done that is illegal,” she said.

    At one point, Ms. Maxwell was asked more than a dozen times if she believed that Mr. Epstein had abused any minors — and each time she failed to answer. At another point, she parried inquiries about a laundry basket of sex toys, telling the lawyer asking questions, “I need you to define a sex toy.”

    Eventually, Ms. Maxwell became so frustrated that she suddenly erupted into a “physical outburst” and knocked the court reporter’s computer off the conference room table, according to a separate document released with her deposition. She later apologized for her behavior, the deposition said.

    As Mr. Epstein’s former romantic partner, Ms. Maxwell became the focus of a federal investigation into his sex-trafficking network after his suicide in jail last year at age 66. Federal prosecutors in Manhattan have charged her with conspiring with Mr. Epstein, a financier, in his abuse of minors. As his closest associate, she is believed to have extensive information about him and others who might have been involved.

    But her deposition left unanswered the question of who that might be: Nearly all of the names contained within it — except her own and Mr. Epstein’s — were redacted.

    Ms. Maxwell’s lawyers did not respond to a request for comment.

    While the deposition is rife with denials about various forms of sexual activity, Ms. Maxwell does explain that she performed several jobs for Mr. Epstein at his properties in New York and Florida. She said she was in charge of hiring his pool attendants, gardeners, chefs, butlers, housekeepers and chauffeurs. All of them, she added, were “age appropriate adult people.”

    The deposition also provided a glimpse into how Mr. Epstein financially supported Ms. Maxwell over the years. She said he lent her money to buy a townhouse and bought a car for her — though she acknowledged that she could not recall the make or model. She also said Mr. Epstein donated $50,000 to TerraMar, an ocean conservation charity she founded.

    Ms. Maxwell further noted that Mr. Epstein liked to have at least one massage a day and that more than one masseuse would be on call to perform them. But she refused to answer questions about whether the word “massage” was a code word for sex, saying only that the massages involved private adult sexual relationships, according to the separate document released with her deposition.

    Ms. Maxwell, the daughter of a publishing magnate and a onetime fixture on New York’s social scene, had fought for months to bar the release of the deposition, as well as a second one — both of which emerged from a 2015 civil case brought by Virginia Giuffre, one of her and Mr. Epstein’s accusers.

    Though Ms. Maxwell had argued that the documents contained sensitive personal information, a federal appeals court in Manhattan upheld on Monday a lower court’s decision that one of them could be made public. After a flurry of motions by her lawyers, the deposition was released on Thursday morning.

    Ms. Giuffre has accused Ms. Maxwell in a defamation lawsuit of recruiting her as a teenager to become a victim in Mr. Epstein’s sex-trafficking scheme. She claims that at age 17 she met Ms. Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago, President Trump’s private club in Palm Beach, Fla., where Mr. Epstein also kept a home.

    Mr. Trump’s name does not appear in Ms. Maxwell’s deposition, and Ms. Giuffre, in her own sworn testimony, has not accused Mr. Trump of any wrongdoing.

    Shortly after Ms. Maxwell’s arrest on July 2, Mr. Trump wished her well at a news conference, saying he had met her several times over the years in Palm Beach, where he had also come to know Mr. Epstein.

    The two men had known each other since at least the early 1990s, when they were recorded on video at a party watching and commenting on women. Last year, Mr. Trump said he had had a falling out with Mr. Epstein. “I haven’t spoken to him in 15 years,” Mr. Trump told reporters. “I was not a fan of his, that I can tell you.”

    In her own deposition, Ms. Giuffre said Ms. Maxwell trained her to give erotic massages to Mr. Epstein at his mansion in Palm Beach. Before long, she said, she was being flown on Mr. Epstein’s private Gulfstream jet to perform sexual services on his acquaintances.

    Ms. Giuffre has accused Ms. Maxwell and Mr. Epstein of directing her to have sex with several prominent men, including Prince Andrew of Britain and the lawyer Alan Dershowitz, both of whom have strongly denied the allegations. Because of heavy redactions in Ms. Maxwell’s deposition, it was unclear whether she was asked about these accusations.

    On one point, Ms. Maxwell was adamant. She said former President Bill Clinton had never visited Mr. Epstein’s private island in the Caribbean, as Ms. Giuffre had contended.

    In a statement issued on Thursday, Ms. Giuffre’s lawyers, David Boies and Sigrid McCawley, hailed the release of the deposition, calling it “a small part of the total evidence.”

    “As the evidence comes out,” the lawyers said, “it will be clear why Ms. Maxwell and others who enabled Jeffrey Epstein are fighting so hard to keep it concealed.”

    When Ms. Maxwell was arrested, prosecutors said that from 1994 to 1997 she contributed to Mr. Epstein’s abuse of multiple teenage girls — one as young as 14 — and in some cases participated in the abuse. She also was charged with lying under oath in her depositions, which were taken in 2016. She has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

    Her arrest came almost one year after Mr. Epstein was taken into custody and charged in New York with sexually exploiting and abusing dozens of girls and young women at his mansion in Manhattan, his estate in Palm Beach and other locations. While awaiting trial, he was found hanged in his jail cell in Manhattan in August 2019, and a city medical examiner ruled the death a suicide.

    Ms. Maxwell’s long association with Mr. Epstein has led to both criminal charges and a lawsuit being filed against her, but at the time of her deposition, she acknowledged that she was loyal to him.

    “Why did you continue to maintain contact with Jeffrey Epstein after he pled guilty?” Ms. McCawley asked her.

    “I believe that you need to be a good friend in people’s hour of need,” Ms. Maxwell said, “and I felt that it was a very thoughtful, nice thing for me to do to help in very limited fashion.”
     
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