RM95, I remember there was a call that was questionable but other than that I can't remember the specific play. The thing that no one is understanding is a couple of things: 1) Referees should NOT decide games like that unless it was blatantly obvious a foul. I'm sorry but I have seen the replays and unless he was holding him before he got to the end zone, I didn't see a penalty. 2) You don't wait 2 minutes or so and after a team has gone out on the field and celebrate to throw a flag. You be a man and not a p***y by sitting there and saying "I was replaying the play in my mind before I decided to throw the flag." I have taken an officiating class in college and the first thing we were taught is that as an official you ALWAYS SELL YOUR CALL. That call was not sold, and invariably people are going to think that the official was unsure of himself and his call. 3) Terry Porter has a HISTORY of making bad calls. Read the link that I posted earlier in this thread. You will see that his calls has caused the Big 12 to issue a written letter of apology twice to teams. This begs the question: why in the hell is he out there in the first place to officiate the most important game of the year?? The fact that he is out there with his past is incredible to me.
Two minutes? C'mon. It was like 10 seconds. And the play that you convienently don't remember had two blatant holds on Gamble and he still caught the ball in bounds. If they had made any of those calls correctly, then the final score would've been 17-14. I don't know if it was a good call or not, and I could care less about that official's history. However, it didn't stop Miami from stopping Ohio State and not scoring the next time they had the ball, either. I understand why you're upset, I would be too. But to say the officials cost you the game is flat out <B>wrong</B>. They gave you a chance to win, IMO.
Okay it was hyperbole on my part. But it had to be pretty long to the point that people were running out onto the field in celebration like Warren Sapp. Look, that call definitely didn't help but I am just saying that there is always going to be that doubt in my mind because of the 3 things that I mentioned above (the lateness, players decide ballgames not officials, and the official's reputation). Let's say that the call is legit, okay. Why did you have one referee, who was actually closer to the play, signal incomplete pass? Normally, when it is obvious that there is a foul committed by a team, the referees all agree on it and there are no dissenting opinions. I would have almost rather see OSU win by 3 touchdowns than this way because I will always believe in my heart that Miami won this game in every aspect except one - the scoreboard. If OSU had won by 3 touchdowns (like Alabama did 10 years ago), then there is no question, who is better. However, it took a +3 turnover margin, a questionable call in the first overtime, a shaky and woozy Dorsey in the 2nd OT, and McGahee missing the whole 4th quarter and OT periods for OSU to win. If they were that good, then there shouldn't have been a need for OT and they win going away. But they didn't and in my mind, I refuse to acknowledge this game without placing an asterik by the OSU score.
Jeez. The refs made an even worse non-call against OSU, and you won't even acknowledge it, but they still cost you the game. You've hit a Cat-like low. You can officially never talk **** about him again and be taken seriously.
Why did you have one referee, who was actually closer to the play, signal incomplete pass? Even if there is a penalty, the ref always signals complete / incomplete on a play as well. The two are not linked at all.
There is no guarantee that OSU still wins 17-14 if that penalty is called. Miami still had, I believe, 2 timeouts and could have gotten the ball back with time left and Sievers had hit 50+ yard field goals before. My case has a definite absolute - call the penalty and OSU gets a first and goal or don't call it and the game is over and Miami is the winner. Pretty cut and dry. Nice cheap shot there, Blake. I complain about officiating one time and it is in the biggest game of the college football season and the individual you are comparing me to has complained about it on numerous occasions. Yup, that is a fair and accurate assessment there. Puh-leeze.
For one thing, they didn't give OSU a touchdown. The ref made a questionable call at the worst time, but it did not cost them the game. I just laugh at you for all the **** you gave The Cat about the refs, and then the one time your temam loses a game, it's the refs fault. Maybe if Miami had played better in the last 4 quarters, the ref wouldn't have had to make that call.
time to lighten the mood in here. Wanna buy a shirt? No offense towards Miami fans, but I thought the fact this link is still alive was pretty damn hilarious.
Actually there were about 2:25 and Miami had 1 timout left. Assuming they made the call, Miami woulvde had to use their last time out. OSU coulvde run 3 plays (avg 5 seconds) 15 Time to unpile and reset clock (Avg 7 seconds) 21 Ran down time clock 3 downs 75 seconds 4th down punt the ball (including return) 7 seconds Thats 118 seconds. That would given Miami approximately 25-30 seconds with no timeouts. Couldve happened but difficult.
Or if Dorsey hits the wide open tight end in the end zone during the second overtime. That was wide open and he probably hits that pass 95% of the time but he just missed it when it mattered most.
The difference in this game was simple: Both teams had 1st and Goal from the 2 in OT2. One team converted, the other didn't.
yep, and people haven't even mentioned OSU converted a what? 4-and-12 in OT to keep their first drive alive. wasn't the officials fault OSU's only downfield threat (jenkins) was W-I-D-E open on such a crucial play.
I'm going to side on the "call was legit" side of the argument here. I think things get confused because ABC kept replaying that back angle camera shot, but they kept showing it from the point after the interference had taken place. Still, on the wide angle shot I can see the CB grabbing onto the wideout for all he's worth, because he got smoked on the route.
I think the only people crying should be the miami football team and the half dozen or so players they've managed to graduate in the last 25 years. The call was justified, people are just pissed that they wasted christmas money buying Miami jerseys so they're making a ruckus.
1) makes no sense. This is like saying, "people shouldn't fight". It's inevitable that refs will have to make a tough call sometimes. Sounds nice in theory, but get a grip. Also, NYKrule, why ARE you on this board?
bingo!!! clearly the call could have gone either way...but to say it cost miami the game is to ignore the real play on the field. Oh. St. outplayed Miami for most of the night...they set the tone of the game...and they finished with more points on the scoreboard...in the championship game, that means they're the champs.
Don, "get a grip"? You are entitled to your opinion just as I am with mine. Other than that, there is no need to rehash any of this. I AM trying to move on.
Perhaps I am the one that needs to get a grip. I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you were done talking about the game. No need to talk about this any more. Once again, I apologize.
