Call me honkey any time y'all want. Hell, I was gonna change my username to 'Honkey' but I didn't want to throw away the nearly 200 posts I've accumulated by submitting such stilmulating tidbits of info as this post right here.
I suppose you go around the city calling people N**** and colored? Why not? Oh because that would be offensive as opposed to this which is just a silly joke
Is Japs for offensive then gooks? is this that is this that, come on people get off you're damn insecurities, suck it up, and move on, THATS HOW YOU DESTROY RACISM, you don't say "Yeah my girlfriend who IS asian says "yes, that is derogatory", wow, its offensive to me how the White man runs the US government, but hey, Lets just be friends, lets run all these WORDS together and live happy lives The Rockets bringing the WORLD together (through oil and white people in office) everyone chill, don't be offensive to be offensive and will be okay peace ps: don't give power to statements by reacting to them!!! wow
gook is used to refer to Vetnamese. Chink, Chinaman, gook, Jap are all offensive to Asians. Actually, oriental is as well. But, like I've stated, Asians are kind ofthe silent minority. We don't speak up enough about this stuff. Alot of us are just happy about the opportunities we've received in America. I think we've done alot with these opportunites. Oh, another thing. My Asian friends and I don't say "what's up my Chinaman." Don't know why, we just don't.
I don't know why people still struggle with understanding why african americans can use the N word and others can't. I'm not qualified to explain it, but I wonder why whites or other non blacks would care if they can say it or not. The word has almost always been used in a derogatory way by whites towards blacks. When an african americans uses it, it's just not the same. It's like saying "dude". It's hard to explain I guess, I don't know how it came to be used in casual way, but it did and there shouldn't be any trouble accepting that. I read a short story about it back in highschool, the title escapes me and I'm sorry it did because I think people could benefit from reading it. There's also that book that came up during that episode of Boston Public. I thought the controversy in the episode was funny because we had a similar thing happen in my highschool where a white teacher used the aformentioned short story and started a class discussion. I guess since it was a private school where the majority of us were minorities, it wasn't a big deal. I havn't read the book that was used in Boston Public yet, but people I know who have said it's a very good read. It doesn't tell you what to think or what your opinion should be, it just examines the history and helps you make your own opinion. I suppose it's easier to explain to younger guys who casually call eachother things like "hey motherfu**er," or "what's up biatch." But if you say that to a stranger, it's a put down. Someday, this will make sense, I promise.
Yeah "most" asians, definately distinguish between mainland and japan from Vietnamese, see, its, racism on all levels, all this stuff doesn't matter, lets forgive and forget life is too short to let yourself be subjugated by mere words I can't believe this subject keeps coming up
Yeah it is pretty much the same thing. Its like if you call a hispanic person "mescan". Its kinda like all those other terms that are used by different race's of people because they are ignorant. By saying you're ignorant to something is not knowing something, but its not your fault you didn't know like being ignorant to the chinesse language. Stupidity , means its your fault you don't know something.
another brother, we need less racist people like you in this world, and more people like Kelvin Cavto. Haven't you read his book "Helping out Other People(HOOP)?" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -The Cato Institute of Technology, n%^*@!
another brother, while there is a Chinamen Peak in Canada here http://www.summitpost.com/mountains/mountain_link.pl?mountain_id=375 that some complained about to change, and I'm not sure if it ever got change...there remains a "Chinaman's Hat Island" off of Hawaii, and a website to show it called: www.chinamanshat.com Further, there is a travel site for Hawaii that glorifies this island, here http://www.hawaiiweb.com/html/chinamans_hat.html oh, lookie here, there is another one http://www.laieinn.com/images/attractions/chinaman/ and about.com has some links devoted to "Chinaman's Hat Island" http://gohawaii.about.com/library/gallery/blgallery15.htm I don't quite see an uproar over an island using chinaman hat However, try as you might, you won't find a n*****peak.com n*****hat.com n*****island.com Chinaman is derogatory if they say it is. But I don't quite think they are on the same level, certainly Hawaii, Canada, American, and the Internet Domain names are not treating them on the same level of offensiveness. You can say want offends you, and I will listen and learn, but why try to compare it to the N word? That word was born out of treating a race as commoditized subhumans, not free market immigrant workers. This world sure needs more tolerance for words, anyhow.
"free market" immigrant workers? Heypartner, you know your basketball but you don't know your history. The Chinese were treated no better than slaves. Even free Blacks earned a wage but still were 'treated' with the N word. Non-whites were treated as sub-human, less than dogs. The N word is more well known, but "Chinamen" is/always was a slur. Riet has already explained that Asian culture is different, less vocal.
A large reason why asians are thought of as 'docile' or 'accepting' when it comes to racism is not because of their demeanor or their religion, it is because we hold such a small minority, that affecting change is incredibly hard. Although that is changing with the influx of immigration from Asia, it is a very slow change. And the successful Asian stereotype is overemphasized today, as many come from very poor families in very poor neighborhoods. It may have been true to a point where the only Asians that were able to find passage to America was through their wealth, but as time goes on, that trend is reversing itself, and there are many Asians from poor backgrounds. Words like "chink" don't offend me personally, but the relative acceptance of it in our society does. It does not dominate my life, it does not provide me with excuses, and it will not dictate who I become. And this has absolutely nothing to do with the Rockets.
And the guy who called you, Another Brother, has no clue on how to effect change. Insulting others isn't exactly a great way to promote understanding.
Another Brother, I am an aspiring comedian and quite often have run into the delima of what is too much. I do a local television show in Austin and only intend to make people laugh. I also realize that someone will always be offended. It is the nature of our field. I personally don't want to hurt people in the long term. However, it is still our job to make people laugh even if it offends. Even though it will offend, it will grab laughs so long as it's funny it's somewhat okay. Listen to the crowd. They'll let you know. I'd also say listen to your heart. It'll let you know what too far is. I'm thinking about you, Just another comedian. P.S. It sounded like you had a pretty good set.
Although it has nothing to do with our Site IMHO I think most of you would be much better off if you all took a modern course in Anthropology! You would find that the barriers of color or the lack of same are not as well defined as is commonly thaught.With this education a much better level of respect of all our Brothers and Sisters can be obtained!
I wouldn't say it's quite on the same level as the 'N' word (though 'G' and the other 'C' are) but it is derogitory none the less. Maybe along the lines as 'colored boy'. The person saying may think that is good but to the person it's said about...Not good.
I guess you can call them free market immigrant workers. Many were killed when they were sent into dangerous mines that collapsed (they didn't want to risk an actual human being for that type of dangerous job). To be fair, it's probably not in the same context as n*****. It's more like "colored" or "negro". Archaic terms that no longer exist because it was used in a derogatory way. Like I said, no dogs or Chinamen in the saloons.
When someone is OFFENDED . . . THEY ARE OFFENDED!! They don't have to explain it. They don't have to JUSTIFY IT. If they say it's offensive. Fine. I'll try to respect their feelings on the matter. Rocket River
This thread offends me. Why don't we all just run out and put on our skirts. SHEESH !!! WRONG FORUM !!! DaDakota
