So the chimp in charge decider has decided that he’s smarter than the entire American intelligence community. Hum…. Bush Disowns U.S. Intel, Tells Israelis Iran NIE ‘Doesn’t Reflect My Own Views’ But in private conversations with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert last week, the president all but disowned the document, said a senior administration official who accompanied Bush on his six-nation trip to the Mideast. “He told the Israelis that he can’t control what the intelligence community says, but that [the NIE’s] conclusions don’t reflect his own views” about Iran’s nuclear-weapons program, said the official, who would discuss intelligence matters only on the condition of anonymity. Bush had reportedly briefed Olmert about the Iran NIE days before it was publicly released in late November. The New Yorker’s Seymour Hersh said, “The Israelis were very upset about the report. They think we’re naive, they don’t think we get it right. And so they have a different point of view.” But after his private meetings with Bush this week, Olmert — asked whether he felt reassured — replied, “I am very happy.” http://thinkprogress.org/
According to published reports, Saddam killed 300,000 over the 30 years he was their leader. That means that in less than 5 years, we are halfway to Saddam's total. Try again, rookie.
the intelligence community did not miss 9/11 - there were several warnings in the months leading up to 9/11 which the powers that be chose to ignore. when they were not hindered by their superiors, intelligence officers did their job in uncovering potential terrorists. furthermore, there are actions this administration took which actually helped to facilitate 9/11, such as the visa express program. but lets run w/ your little analogy real quick - since the intelligence community was convinced saddam had wmd and was proven wrong, we must now assume that since they say iran doesnt have wmds that they indeed do and we need to attack them? that makes sense!
wasn't it bush who missed reading the pdbs regarding 911?.. and who missed reading the conflicting/contradicting reports regarding iraq wmd?..
Nope! You don't get to rewrite history. The intelligence community got it right. You're thinking about Cheney's little Office of Special Plans that got everything so wrong.
You are questioning the value of intelligence community by citing the failure of them to prevent 9/11 or prove that Saddam had WMD. You have previously cited the intelligence community on Saddam's WMD as justification for invading Iraq. If you are going to now discount that intelligence community then it would follow that you were mistaken in the first place to trust them regarding Saddam's WMD.
no- i'm questioning the use of intelligence reports to support a preset result. For the record, i next to zero confidence in our intelligence communities' ability to predict anything, and my support for the war on iraq was not predicated on what they, colin powell, or W lui stesso said in regards to any particular intelligence. That is not to say i haven't cited a particular report now and again, but i do find it highly amusing that those self-same critics who has so often denigrated the cia, nsa, et al, now find their reports indispensible, because they preclude a course of action that may be the only realistic choice we have for disarming iran. and make no mistake- they're gearing up.
Please site some instances where those self-same critics (whoever they are) denigrated the cia, nsa, et al. tia And what does that even mean? Or are you channeling Jr again with his "untl it's too late" nonsense.
So would you be perfectly fine with Bush starting another war? Just want to be clear on that. And give us your justification, if you wouldn't mind, if it indeed would be OK with you if Bush attacked Iran before he leaves office. Thanks in advance. Impeach Bush.
it's the same war. and while i don;t partcicularly relish the thought of attacking iran, they've already attacked us, and will do so again, likely with nuclear weapons. you're ok with that? TIA.
If it's the same war then almost every nation is a justifiable enemy including the U.S. which has been supporting the PJAK branch from of the PKK which operates inside of Iran. In fact members of the PKK(which in fairness has been labeled as a terrorist organization by Bush) claim that their weapons were supplied by U.S. armored vehicles, and meet regularly with U.S. military officers So if giving material and weapons support to terrorists counts as supporting terrorists and justifies invasion then we'll have to invade ourselves. The problem is that your overly-broad criteria for which nations are already guilty and deserving of invasion, then the list never stops. Now on to the next point... likely with nuclear weapons? Would those be the ones from their inactive nuclear weapons program?
Do you have any evidence whatsoever for your claim that, "iran...will [attack us], likely with nuclear weapons," or are you as delusional as you seem?
basso will explode you shortly! If we are truly "gearing up," heaven help us, every one, even basso. There may be enough of the military that would say "hell no!" this time, bless them.
I'll bookmark this. With all due respect, basso, you are severely delusional. You would rather have yet another war started and prosecuted by the man who got us into this horrific mess in Iraq and made a complete cockup of the the war he began. In your mind, you can justify attacking and possibly invading the country of Iran, causing untold death and misery to the Iranian people, the Gulf region, the world's oil supply, and our brave service men and women, with a year left in this man's last term of office. Unbelievable. Show me one study by any source remotely credible that thinks Iran can have atomic weapons by the end of Bush's term of office. Show me one credible study that says they could have them within a year of Bush (thank god) leaving office. Go ahead. Impeach Bush. Now, before it's too Late.
