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The Bosh Debacle - [Reflection]

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Grimm920, Nov 25, 2010.

  1. Charles Jones

    Charles Jones Member

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    if battier would have been a part of this deal we wouldnt have Lee we would have kept Ariza...

    Brooks/Lowry
    Martin/Taylor
    Ariza/Budinger
    Scola/Patterson
    Bosh/Miller

    but Bosh clearly stated he wanted to be a PF and didnt want to play C anymore because he is a P*SSY
     
  2. sew

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    Slightly better D.

    Bosh's D still stinks.
     
  3. bonojzk2005

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    Bosh is overrated, I am in Toronto and watch him for many years. Raptors play with a lot of east conf teams which were generally weak. Bosh is a 20/10 guy, Maybe a slight upgrade over Scola, but no more than that, don't think he deserve the max contract (20M)
     
  4. eMat

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    If you mean better than Bosh in Miami, then I fully agree.

    edit: But, even though Bosh would be better than Scola, I never wanted Bosh and am glad that we didn't get him.
     
  5. hotballa

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    Why are people saying that Bosh can defend? The guy is SOFT. He's a terrible defender in the low post. Just because a guy is quick doesn't mean he's a great defender. Cmon now. Bosh is just a horrible defender. He doesn't box people out, the guy is just terrible and he's being completely exposed in Miami as someone who is just plain useless without the ball in his hands.
     
  6. sew

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    I forgot to type the word "don't". I don't think Morey would have let Scola walk in free agency even if he did acquire Bosh. My bad.
     
  8. roslolian

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    The plan was to get Bosh but still retain Scola. If we traded Battier and Jeffries to the Raps to get Bosh we would still be paying the same salary now.


    As for Scola equating Bosh...is this where I say I told you so? I remember DD and I were one of the few people who keep saying Scola will perform at near Bosh levels for just half the pay.
     
  9. tcadriel

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    I'd go out on a limb and say Scola's team play at whatever option he is gonna be is gonna be comparable to Bosh's numbers as option one. Scola could press the issue offensively too, but gets his numbers in the flow of the game.

    Granted Bosh has the size and tools, Scola has the heart and winners attitude. Sure you could dump the ball into Bosh and get a higher percentage shot. He could be the main focus of a offense, but he can't be a team player the way Scola is and get the same numbers. Bosh is more one dimensional in the roles he can fill. Scola is capable of many and puts up great numbers and has what many call "intangables" in the way he affects the game.

    Some players can put up great numbers on losing teams having to be option #1. But can't do the same on winning teams or can't get a team to have playoff success. Example: Tracy.

    IMO Bosh is one of those players.
     
  10. tcadriel

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    You can keep on preaching but some won't hear you. He has size and is a top talent, but I don't think he deserves a max contract. He's not a huge draw as far as stardom and you can't say he's capable of putting teams on his back over the long haul.

    Honestly though, with this Yao not being able to stay healthy thing. I wouldn't mind having Bosh Next to Scola right about now.
     
  11. NotInMyHouse

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    Luis Scola is the black Chris Bosh.
     
  12. larsv8

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    Bosh is a decent PnR defender and a terrible post defender.

    Scola is terrible at both.

    Thats why.
     
  13. LongTimeFan

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    Sigh. Chris Bosh is better than Luis Scola. I don't know what else to tell you guys. Scola's "intangibles" and "winner's attitude" have all contributed to the 4-10 start. And Luis Scola has never put up great numbers on a winning team either.

    Trying to to compare Chris Bosh's third-option stats to Scola's first-option stats is dumb. Period. The end of thread. We're less than a quarter into the season and you guys are trying to use stats to show that someone is overrated without taking into account all the other factors that could contribute to the decline.

    If you like small sample size stats, then here: over the last 5 games, Bosh is averaging 24 points and 9+ rebounds. In Scola's last five, he's averaging 22 PPG and 8 boards.

    I don't know what team a healthy McGrady went to where he failed to fit in on a winning team -- I remember him fitting in just fine with the Rockets when he was healthy.
     
  14. ryano2009

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    Do we have Dwayne Wade and Lebron James on our team..? I just made my point.
     
  15. ryano2009

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    No he is not, both are horrible on defense.
     
  16. anchel

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    At least Bosh has an important potential. 6-11 and athletic. Hopefully on a playoffs series he decides to play hard defense and you have a quality presence inside.
     
  17. EffTheJazz!!!

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    Exactly, thread should've been over right there.
     
  18. tcadriel

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    I'm really not trying to compare any stats. They're a very different type of players. Bosh is the better "big".

    IMO, Scola is the better player. At a better price. Bosh is overrated and over paid. We got a better deal, Miami? Well they got what they got.

    As far a Tracy? He's one of those players that is good at winning scoring titles but not produce playoff success. I never felt he was a winner or good for the Rockets.
     
  19. roslolian

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    Bosh is indeed better than Scola, esp. if you factor his age. However he's not 2x better than Scola, your measly 2 pts and 1 reb isn't worth 10 million dollars more.
     
  20. rock4ever

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    And this is the main problem with 95% of clutchfan posters
     

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