You have a problem with me TALKING ABOUT/REFERRING to the racial slurs yet you don't have a problem with the song in discussion tha uses racial slurs with offensive intentions?
No, actually I don't. because its "music" and I don't listen to them. There are thousands or "racial" songs from every country of the world. Doesn't mean I have to pay attention or listen to them. Oh, and this doesn't mean I think it's right for them to have lyrics like that, but I also don't think it's all that wrong. I've seen much worse. What I have a problem with is you telling other posters : "**** you
So do you have problems with stand up comedians then? Most use racial slurs/stereotypes all the time, they dont really hate them, but use them for a laugh, most people understand this...I guess you dont?
you want to know what's offensive??? don henley is f'ing offensive. those lyrics are just funny, but don henely.......
Yes, I have a problem with that! I especially have a problem that non-Asians use racial slurs on Asians! Do most of the comedians using racial slurs make them right because they are the majority? Besides the point, White comedians RARELY use the word "*****" and when they do, they almost never use it in a degrading sense where Black people are depicted as worse than **** like what "yellow fever" means to me! MOST minorities understand what being degraded by White people feels! I guess you don't understand because you are WHITE(???)! But sadly there are many minority people who don't give a rats ass about it because they are either ignorant or are sellout appologists!
I do admit that I wrote with a lot of temperament. I have the right to voice what I feel about the bloodhound gang just as most of you can defend them any way you want. Most of you won't understand so I'll just stop replying to the posts in this thread...
Last post... No one answered my question. Maybe you all are trying to avoid it. Would it be different or would you view it differently if the subject being mocked and being called "*****" in the song (written by White men) is Black and not Asian???
I most certainly would. I went and picketed the move "White Girls" when it came out, along with "The Jerk" and "Blazing Saddles" etc. I will not stand for such racial Tom Foolery.
I totally agree. "Anyway I decided that the only thing to do Would be to eat all the rest of the cheesecakes And hide the truck somewhere And leave town. And I miss everybody a lot But I'm not really sorry, 'Cause they were very delicious cheesecakes.""
I've listened to many black comedians make fun of white people through stereotypes. I realize they are using stereotypes as a form of humor. I am not offended by it. While we are on the topic of stereotypes. One of my best friends in the president of ASA (Asian Student Association) at a major university in Florida. They have shirts made that say "Break the Stereotype" and it has small symbols of different asian stereotypes around it. One of the symbols is a small paper with an "A+" on it. I found that humorous. Do they want them to break stereotypes by getting bad grades?
I'm half Asian, and I find it funny. If you don't, I can understand. But that doesn't necessarily make a group that is just trying to be funny racists, and neither does it make me funny just because I find it funny.
I know you are half-Korean. Do you look more White than Asian? Do you relate more to White people than Asian people or a good mix of both? Most hapas I know or heard of think of themselves as being more White than Asian. Most don't sympathize with Asian American experience. Of course, simply saying chik, gook, and making fun of Asians don't make someone racist. If you question their motive for writing such a song and it seems they only single out Asians for this kind of ridicule in their songs, you wouldn't think they have something against Asians?
I can't refrain from not posting in this thread again... You and your people are not being made fun of, so you (White/non-Asian people) won't understand! But I'm sure you'll care if it's about you! There is no way in hell that CHINK, SLANTED-EYES, etc. mentioned in the song can mean anything positive! And there's no way you can compare "harmless" racial jokes for good laughs to being CONDESCENDING towards a race/ethnic group! And I can't believe people use the excuse that "group X are using racial slurs to mock group Y, then it's alright for group Y to do the same to group X(or any other group for the matter)!" Maybe all of you are racist, so you don't find the song racist. Maybe you like to think you're not -- like the Ryan Phillippe character in "Crash," but you're inherently racist and you wouldn't want to admit it. The song is racist to me and Asian people I know! Period! It's not up to non-Asian people to decide what's offensive to Asians! I know on this site, the majority of active posters are White and minority views aren't well received. I'm on this site mainly for basketball... Laters!
I think they just make fun of everything. Sometimes it is probably in bad taste, but I think one should not put too much meaning into it. I have seen an interview with them where they spoke about how some people think they are racist, and they just laughed and said it was ridiculous. They are definitely sexist, though, and I think that's funny . To answer the first part of your question, yes, I do look more white than Asian. Many people will not realize that I have some Asian ancestors. Yes, I did not really grow up in an Asian environment because there are very few Asians in Germany and I grew up in a small town in Germany where my mom and I were almost the only not completely white person (except for some American soldiers from time to time). I don't think it makes any difference for the validity of my opinion, though. I never felt that I was subject to any racism that would have really mattered to me, though. I don't know, I kind of feel if someone thinks like that, it would be beneath me anyway. I'd shrug it off, or get mad for a short time if it ever happened. But I am aware that others' experiences are different, especially in the USA. So I understand where you are coming from. I just think that in the case of the Bloodhound Gang, if anything, they were insensitive and maybe purposely provocative with that song, but I just don't see them as racists. (By the way, while I am typing this, Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo just started on the German music channel on my TV ).
Mexican Americans don't like to just get into gang fights, they like flowers and music and white girls named Debbie too. Mexican Americans are named Chata and Chella and chemma and have a son in law named jeff. Mexican Americans don't like to get up early in the morning but they have to so they do it real slow. Mexican Americans love education so they go to night school and take spanish and get a B. Mexican Americans love their Nana's and their Nono's and their Nina's and their Nino's........ Nano Nano Nina Nono! Mexican Americans don't like to go to the movies where the dude has to wear contact lenses to make his blue eyes brown cause don't it make my brown eyes blue..... "And thats all i got, how do ya like it?" *phone rings* Mexican Americans like to answer telephone calls and say hello to whoever's on the other end Happy?
http://www.asianweek.com/2000_06_01/bay_bloodhoundgang.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bloodhound_Gang (maybe he is just angry that his wiener is so little, thus that controversial text ) Damn, I read up a little bit on them and I think they are just crazy...throwing up at each other...nuts. (I guess this one is off to the D&D soon ).
I don't know that they are racist, but whether they are or not, their sense of humor just seems stunted, childish and not very developed. Sometimes I love this stuff because sometimes there is thought put into that kind of humor, but in their case it just seems like their sense of humor got stuck in the fourth grade and never made it past that.
Wow, I never imagined that this thread would ignight such a fire...but then again, it's the Clutch BBS, where everything is picked apart and debated . Anyway, the lyrics to that song ARE racialy slurred. Yes, I am a cracker, a straight wonderbread honkey, so I don't have firsthand knowledge of being an Asian and being discriminated against or picked on in that respect. I have lived in places where Abe Lincolns such as myself were the minority; in fact, when I was a kid, I was by far the minority in an almost all black school. In situations like that, you learn the humor in slangs and you end up getting respect, or you get in a fight every day. I live in Galveston now, where the white population is only 33%. But again, the Bloodhound Gang are just knuckleheads with twisted senses of humor - take it with a grain of salt. I appreciate humor in all of it's forms, from South Park potty humor to Fraisure-esque 'intellectual' humor. That was the point of my original post. These guys are funny in a crass sort of way. Anyway, here's a giant list of racial slurs for those who are interested. It's a pretty even spread of all cultures and races, and most of them are pretty darned funny.
